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I'm currently working on Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger for the 83+. What I want to know is what would you guys look for in games like these. What sort of GUI? Should I stick to the original story or make my own. Would it be ok if I release the game in chapters? How about making it an APP or even sound, I can do all of the in like a 4 page app and 4 years of work, but what do you expect?

There are currently two Final Fantasy projects going on for the 83/83+, both in asm. But if you want to try your hand,go ahead. I think sound is definitely an entirely possible concept, if you're talking about midi-style sound. Of course, the processing power isn;t there for background music, but maybe you could have music in the battles, at menus and title screens, etc., plus sounds when you do magic or attack.

Is it possible to make ur calc make sounds?

Yah, but not that many people actually bother hooking up headphones to your calculator. Usually math teachers find something fishy about you when you where headphones attatched to your calculator in the middle of math class. Plus you can only do it with assembly. So it's really not worth it if you ask me, but then again, whatever floats your boat... and i mean that in a sincere way.

Not that any of us here would be playing games while in math class......nooooooo.....of course not. *shifty eyes*

Hahahahahahahahahah! Yah, in math I'm always playing "Mathkids", "Fallmath", and of course "Mathball" (Bomberkids, Falldown, Jezzball). The funny thing is, the teacher still think's it's relating to math.

I play gamesin math, play games in physics, and play games in history (I also use my calc to take notes). The only class I don't have an excuse to use my calc in is English, and in that the teacher doesn't care!

hey jakas where the heck is ur yoshi game? i cant find it.....

o wait.......
u already andwered that.

my bad

Yah, just don't be pissed of with me when you find out that I only have one block drop at a time. I'm working on two, but as i've announced, I have other projects going too.

I salute you on doing a puzzle game in basic
I feel kinda sorry for the guy that had to make tetris in basic though(he did a good jod and it ran pretty smoothly, but it mustve been hell to program it)

I play game all the time, and make games (usually stupid things) and my teachers ALL think I'm taking notes, I love ignorance :)

Sorry for replying, but when i try the main reply thing, it put's it on the first page.

Ok, I'm comming out with the ultimate strategy game in a week or so. It's somewhat similiar to Age of Empires, but this game focuses on battle. The way it works, is you have the opportunity to create 9 different (and seperate) armies. You can either go to the barracks, archery range, and stable to create, of course, infantry, archers, and calvary. You also can alter each type of unit's stats including Health, Attack, and Deffense. So pretty much you have 1000 gold to create the perfect army (Well, of course you could build NINE). The infantry and all of the stat's cost 10 gold. However, the calvary and archer's cost 20 because the archer's can attack in the midst of battle without being killed as long as there are other unit's fighting. And the calvary's Attack cost half as much as everything else.

To be continued

Ok, The Battle... Unlike creation which is Menu based, the Battle Scenes are live action. The Best part of all is that you do this with anotehr person. So it's kindof like battle bots. It works like this... Those stats that you put in all have different purposes. first, Deffence: all of your unit's deffence is added together into one solid number. Now, your army cannot be harmed until your entire deffence is gone. (this won't effect your stats). ok, your Attack: your attack pretty much is how hard you hit your opponent. note, this is continuouse so you'll be able to watch your enemies health drop. third Health: your health determines how fast your Unit's die. so your unit's will take longer to die if you have more health. Ok, so now you can deploy each type of unit at different times (you choose to your liking) actual battle does not start until both your and your opponent have engaged. So after the battle is over, it works like this. The loser's army will, no duh, cease to exist. However, The winner's army will take on any casualties (stat's will not be affected). But to compensate, the winner will gain lot's of gold!!! I know what your thinking, you can use a friends calculator and just battle week armies, but noooooooooo, the gold you get is based on how many units you kill and what their stat's are. And of course, you CANNOT edit the list's to your liking because they have anti-cheating logarithims.
So there you have it, I'm sorry that this took so long to explain. But i would of course enjoy feedback on whether it sounds cool, if theres something like it, or if i whould just trash it.

you are a smart person.
that sounds like an awesome game, and i want u to e-mail it to me as soon as its done. i won't have the patience to wait for it to come out on this site. (considering ur yoshi game is still not posted)

i wish u luck

huh? it's still not posted. Eh, well i just finished a working version of the game (i might spiff it up later) so i'll send it on over to ya (along with the yoshi game).

hey thx jakas.
the attachment worked fine.
i'll try the games in math :Þ

Um, yah, i have to apologise. Since it is break and i dont' have two Ti-83's i wasn't able to fully test it. Anyway, i'm still not sure what's wrong with it... It actually sometimes works, but sometimes it screws up big. But the battle sequence may or may not work. So I'll send ya another copy when i fix it up. sorry bout that.

Also, i will put it up on the site as soon as i know it works well.

Anybody else not able to get to ticalc.org yesterday?

holy shit. ti-84????
god.
i wonder if it can transfer to 83........

They will be completely compatible

the only thing that i like abaut the 84 so far is that you can change the colar around the buttons but it could use some more add ons onto it like maybe a light for the screen so that you can use it at night. but it hooking up and sharing games with my 83 plus silver edition calculater isn't a bad idea.

Umm, no one could dude, look at the web page.

Yah Yah, no need to make fun of me. I usually just jump here first and then move on to the survey and main page. So quit yelling at me!

never.
i will yell forever.

oh, c'mon! Where's the evil laughter?

Do mean "Mwah ha ha ha" or "Bwah ha ha" or maybe "Heeeeeeeeeeee he he he"?

I think the "Mwah ha ha ha" would be appropriate because if you were to say, "Bwah ha ha" then it would sound like your mouth is full of food or something. Now...as for the "Heeeeeeeeeeee he he he," that sounds like a girl saying it or something. I don't know...it's just not the best one.

For now just stick with the "Mwah ha ha ha" and maybe you'll eventually come across a situation where the other two evil laughs would be approcpriate.

hey dabud, i think the heeheehee would be just right for u.

O BURN!

Yah, I like the "Mwah ha ha ha". I always think of an evil councilman drywashing his hands while leaning on his big staff. As for the "heeeeeeeee he he he" one... not great, but some people can pull it off. And i think Bowser from super mario does "Bwah ha ha ha"

how goes ur latest program jakas? u know, the army one...

well, i put it up, but unfortunately the day after i noticed some severe problems that only sometimes happen. So I've been forced to completely remodel it. I expect it to be finished and magnificent by the end of next week, heck, it might even be up by then.

ok, forget the due date, I finished it last night. So i'm going to bring it to school tomarrow to fully test it, then it's off to the archives

It's great that ur game is comming, but suck that my port is broken, of well, gotta wait for my 84+SE

Ya know, I'm not gonna wright any more big programs like this. I don't get it. I played it all day and it worked just fine, but then suddenly during fifth period it desides to return a divide by zero error. I hate that sooooooo much. Oh well, I'll see what i can do and hopefully get the good version up soon.

Wow, yeah, the calc corrupts it's own files, or something... It did that when I made a KICK ASS maze game...

I don't think it would work, but it might. Could you just put "If <variable> <does not equal> 0" in front of the dividing sign? I'm sure you've already thought of that though.

Yah, the problem is that there a was number that was divided by a fairly lengthy equation that consisted of 6 varialbes that all had to do with different things. And some of them could have been zeros, but some of them were definately not supposed to be zeros, and that stupid little equation was not supposed to return zeros!!! Oh well, half of the game works superbly so I'm just going to do the whole battle sequence over. It's cool though because now I can implement a really great idea by one of my friends. You have three different types of terrain that are randomly chosen at the beginning of the battle. Each type of terrain will slightly benifet while the others dont. This will make it necissary to have a diverse army because me and my friends were just making the same army with as many unit's as possible of one type. Ok, that's it, sorry for rambling. I'll keep ya informed... should be done soon.

hey jakas i was really interested in your game and wondering what it is programmed in? basic?

oh yeah and i know this is probably one of the most stupid questions in the world and you are probably sick and tired of hearing it but would it be possible for me to get the source code for any simple games you know like hangman or something because i cant get a graphlink and am not advanced enough to make any games better than text games with pics. well my email is www.kristuffy@hotmail.com so if you could do this i would appreciate it greatly oh and by the way if i ever get a graphlink armies will be the first game i download

Well, to be honest with you, I'm not sure I have that many fun, simple games. But then again it always does depend on taste. Anyway, I might be able to send you a text copy of some of my games, but a better thing for you to do is just go ahead and download the Ti-Graph Link software. This alows you to download all the games you want and view them at your leasure. Reply again if you still want a text copy.

Yah, it's programmed in basic. And you can tell too. Although it's a really fun game (even though it's not working to well), It's all text (except for the home screen).

That sounds awsome... I'm working on some various solitaire games, but I shouldn't be... because of the port not working and stuff :(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Yah, it sucks when your port fails yah. It's nice to be able to download the latest games and stuff. Anyway, are those solitair games Card games or other versions? Cause i personally think card games are just about the hardest to make. Dice games... now those are the easy ones.

ok ya i will do the graphlink software thing but could you send me some text copies of your games that would be really cool and i would appreciate it alot.oh yeah and about how much would a cable cost anyway? i have heard from 5 dollars to like 50

Pretty sure it's about 15 bucks. Unless you wan't to upgrade to a silver edition and get it for free.

They're card games... it's not too hard to make, but then again, I'm the one who made the shuffling program... I need some help too, Billy's making Scrabble, and we have some problems... Here's the statement as is:
If dim([A])={15,15}....
It returns a Dimension mismatch error, and we've tried everything... think ya can help?

Well, if you're returning a dimension mismatch error, then (as far as i know) it has nothing to do with the line itself. Unfortunately I'm not exactly sure how to use a matrix "dim" in an if-then statement, I'm pretty sure you only get a dimension mismatch if you are trying to multiply two incompatible matrices. But then again, i just started using matrices myself.

Well, not as good of a programmer as I assumed, looks as though I exceed your capabilities, MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ok, figured it out...

Actually, i am kinda curiouse now, exactly how do you use a Matrix's dimensions in an If-then statement?

hey jakas is your nine armies game bug free yet. i want to p;ay it but dont want to put it on my calc unless it is bug free. oh ya and couls you tell me why the wak-a-mole game doesnt work.???

Um, Well, I don't know anything about the whak-a-mole game, i could look at it if i knew what it was called. And about my armies game. I'm pretty sure I have a fully working bug free version (now with added material and a one player mode), but i don't want to put it up until I can fully test it with other calculators. So, hopefully, if it is bug free, I can put it up tomarrow after school. So It should be up very soon if it doesn't have any big bugs.

Ok, yeah, everything is too small, too many Re:'s I;m gonna start a new run of things before explaining it...

For some weird reason it's on page 2... If the person who manages the boards reads this, please make them go in order, the most resent ones in the back, so maybe, it should be on page 58, thanks.

//it would probably be like
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if dim([A])=dim([B]
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Ok, I dunno if the whole transfering of pages and what not was bothering everybody else, so I'm writing this if any of you still like this page (as i do).

Anyway... 09 Armies is definately up. I have played it several dozen times at school and i believe i have fixed any possible problem. And i might as well give a breif overview of everything real quick... You build up to nine armies, you then either battle two of your own against each other (just to see which ones better... it will not kill your army), or you can link up and battle a friends army. If you win, you get gold to make your army even better. Ok?

Oh, and merthsoft... thanks for the matrix help

ok i have just one wuestion about the nine artmies game. what happens if you just really suck and you never winn. won't you just eventually not be able to play anymore because you lose all of your money?

oh yeah and im on page 7 out of 22 on typing it into my calc lol it will take forever

oh yeah and another question because it will be a while before i get o9 armies working but what are the battles actually like. what do the units look lie? they arent a bunch of 0's and i's and stuff are they

he he he, no. They're much worse than that. They're mearly numbers representing how much defense you have and how many units you have. Graphics would impossible to operate at even an extremely slow speed. With twelve humongous equations in the battle loop, adding graphics would make it take 4 or 5 times as long to run through it once. So no, no graphics whatsoever. For some reason though, it is still fun to see those numbers drop. maybe its just me.

Ok, well about the gold thing. Everytime you make a new army, you get 1000 gold. All 9 armies are seperate from one another. You pick new army, you get 1000 gold, you build your army, you save your army, and then you battle. When you battle, if you win, you win gold (corresponding to how tough your opponents army). If you lose, your army will simply be deleted.
NOTE: your armies will neither gain gold or be deleted in one player mode.

And are you saying you are actually typing out the code??? that is a tough job! good luck.
Eh, oh, hmmm... That kinda sucks cause i had to change some things to it today. minimal things, but still things.
Assuming you downloaded armies 2: I made it so that after you win or lose in 1 player mode, it goes to the home screen instead, and in the battle equations, Instead of using the ipart(, I just have it display the ipart(. That makes it so if you run out of defense, if you have enough health you can last two hits. before you could only last one hit no matter what. So maybe you can change those along the way, The new version will be up in an hour or two.

No problem, I was looking at the code for 09Armies, looks like you may be able to use it, maybe, oh and, dude, optimize, seriously. Stuff like ARM1(1)->A
make ARM1(1->A
DelVar statements can be gouped instead of
DelVar A
DelVar B
DelVar LARM1
make it
DelVar ADelVar BDelVar LARM1
and if you have
If A=0
make it
If not(A
PLEASE!!!! Makes it soo much smaller, as soon as I get my 84+SE I'll give it to Billy, and he'll optimize it for you, if you want. He's a guru at it, I do hardcore programming, he makes it smaller and faster.

Yes, optimization would be a good thing. Unfortunately It drove me to near insanity, so I'm only fixing the things that need to be fixed.

And unfortunately, after a year and a half of programming the calculator's basics. I can guarentee i will never be able to break those habbits. And normally i leave off the end ")" and the last quote, but armies was such a big program with so many damn variables, that i didn't want to take a chance with the lists. Cause i programmed a yahtzee game (first use of lists for me) and everything went wrong just because of leaving the damn end ")" off of everything. But anyway, thanks for the tips. I will try to use them. And be my guest at any optimizing you want to do. I just don't care enough right now.

Ooooohhhhhhhhh!!! I need help!!! Ok, Yes, i keep finding small errors, ya know, minimal stuff, but anyway, for some reason, the program periodicly skips retreiving list 2 from the other calculator. You seee, You pick Defend, which means that battle stays on your calculator, and everything works fine. Then the other person must pick invade, which just puts them into a little loop that is supposed to get a variable for the amount of gold needed to add if it wins, and then get the List 2 back from the defending calculator that it initially sent it to in order for the battle sequence to work. But for some reason, sometimes it does not get the list 2. The really wierd thing though, is after it supposedly get's the list (let's say he lost (meaning all of the list elements should be zero), it just reffers back to the previouse list the list 2 should have been. But the thing is, I deleted the list before the damn loop. If anybody understood any of that... Please help me.

omg i think my eyes just popped out of the sockets and my brain exploded reading that. lol all i can do is make menu and textbased games with some pics. well i completed the game, by typing it in, and it is really fun. i havent gotten to play it against anyone else but it is fun. and yay good news im getting a link cable:)

Riiiight... umm, there was a file on ticalc that spoke about how to make programs that transfer files, and it says the best way to do it is a Pause command after you do the transfering, try that out... other than that i dunno.

Well, then, this means that 1: I will NEVER make another game that attempts to transfer files, and 2: I have given up on 09 Armies due to too complex problems for me to solve. So, Sorry bout that. (And yah, I knew about the pause thing, but for some reason it just didn't work half the time (even though it said it did))

Cute, oh well... My solitare program is good, it's called Golf (anyone play it?) and its neat, and it'll be up as soon as I reprogram it onto Billy's calc, then transfer it, along with his 21 (Black Jack) game... Which may happen in a couple of weeks...

Cute??? Well, your games sound fun.What exactly is golf like?

Yeahm, cute, it was sarcastic, you infidel... (j/k)... Um, well... here is something i got from a help file:
Object:
To move all the cards to the waste pile.

Layout:
7 tableau piles (across top) - no building. Top card of each pile is available for play on the waste pile. At the start of the game 5 cards are dealt face up to each pile.

stock (face down below tableau) - turn over 1 card to the waste by clicking.

waste (next to stock) - build up or down in sequence regardless of suit
No wraparound, only Twos can be played on Aces and nothing can be played on a King.

Notes

Play cards from the tableau to the waste if possible. Whenever there are no possible plays, turn over a card in the stock by clicking on it. This card goes to the waste pile.

It's easy to play, hard to win.

follow the link for an online version... You need shockwave.

Ok, I know it's stupid to respond to my own post 50billion times, but jsut to let you know, I score my game differently then the one online... I just give a point everytime you get a card down, and theres 7 piles of 4 cards in mine, becuase thats the way i learned it... I could easily change it though.

Ok, theres usually 5 cards in each pile, which do you think is better, 4 cards, or 5... you win more with 4, lose more with 5...

I'll release both versions... I really need to stop responding to my own post... :(

Ya think you went a little rant there?