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Uhh, i'm working on a Matrix game based on the movie, although it might run slow because i'm making this first version (v1.2) in BASIC, but i'm planning to make (v1.4) in assembly, its gonig to be basically the same thnig, but it's going to run much more faster, if you have n/e ideas or comments please let me know, and i'll do what i can, oh and yes i'm planning on making bullet time in this game. This release date for this game is so far unknown, it depends how many things i put in the game.

Sounds fun.

I am almost finished with my huge upgrade of my pretty popular (maybe you'll laugh if I say that I think a game with 850 downloads is popular) TI-83+ game Snake Forever 2. Snake Forever 3 is everything (I mean it) you need if you think the perfect game is a Snake-inspired, BASIC-programmed amateur-game! It's a very big game with tons of modes and levels and ways of having fun (it is required that you think that snake-games CAN be at least a little bit fun). It's biggest weaknesses is that it's sometimes pretty slow and that it takes up a lot of RAM-memory. But, I do promise, it's a very good game. I have used at least 40 hours of my free-time to program all the functions, levels and statistics in and after each play. So I really hope you'll like it, please give it a try.

850 is good for only having been there about 2 months, as opposed to like 5 years. BTW it's great to see all this participation on this board...might have actually inspired me to work more on my 83+ BASIC stuff again...

I agree. It does make you wanna write some more "good" BASIC games. I think that once i'm done with AQUATIONS and that AI CHESS I'm going to concentrate my free time on some seriouse games. Not the stupid little games that I'v previously made. The problem is, I hate RPG's so I really don't want to make any. What other type of games are fun to play on Calculators? I'm thinking of making a couple of boardgames, maybe some card games. But that's all I got. Anyway, If anyone has some ideas for good basic games, I'd like to hear them.

U hate RPG's? LOL!!
Well i need ideas too...

Follow the link for a card shuffling program, I used it for my first (well, only) card program, and it's very user friendly, fast, and editable.

Hey, not bad. It's shorter than all of the ones I came up with. Kudos.

Thanks, if ya need any help with it (I doubt you should) then ask, I'll be happy to help.

I don't hate RPG's in general, just RPG's that are inanely difficult and/or incredibly long. I know there are people who dedicate the kind of time in a game like that to get really good, but most people just like a semi-short/medium game with a fairly easy difficulty to play while they are in algebra. I write RPG's when I get bored, but the major one I've written (Zelda) is only a semi-RPG, as it involves several other elements. I consider it fairly original and fun, and I still enjoy playing it, as opposed to the cheesy RPG engine I wrote and the slow BASIC fighter programs I and others have written.

Well, heres a question for ya. What exactly do you find fun in RPG's? For some reason I just can't find anything about them entertaining. It's just redundent if you ask me. But then again, you didn't so i'll just shut up now.

Rpgs have to be done righ, or they just get boring. Unfortunately, few Rpgs for 83 are any good, but there are many excellent Rpgs for console.

I'd have to say the only (out of many) RPG's that I've played and ever liked, Is super mario RPG. Mostly because of it's first of a kind graphics and the sheer sillyness of it. But Nothing was particularly entertaining. Do so many people make RPG's just because they're easy to program?

You can't just say that RPG's are easy to program. You have to realize the amount of work involved. An RPG that is easy to program will be relativly short and lack the cool stuff that an RPG, that is difficult to program, would have. (idk if that sentence made any sense or not). A difficult RPG to make will have more items, larger world map, more characters, more towns, more spells, more............whatever! If you make an RPG that is easy to make, it will end up not having enough stuff. That means that the stuff that you DO have in it will get repetative.

Just an opinion,
~dabud15

What I meant was that the basic designs are easy. There's not as many intuitive programming required. It's pretty much If, Then, add something to a Variable. It's easy code that you can simply walk through and understand all of it. Now actually deciding how the game is played, what techniques there are, items, statistics, plot... Now that's where it get's complicated. I think RPG's are the hardest to create in that sense. Anyway, If you were to ask me what my point is... I have no idea.

RPG's are hard as HELL to make (pardon my language). The hardest part is really skills and battle, that's where I'm stuck on my program, but I've decided to not work much on it for two reasons:
1.My port is broken, so in order to put it on the comp, and another calc.
2.No one took any interest in it (not as big a deal as the first one)
Well, there's my two cents.

I am *almost correct with what you said, Merthsoft... But i must say that skills isn't too hard to implent (in BASIC games, i mean), just use some variables and VOILA!!

Not having the skills, making them work how you want, inside, AND outside of battle.

Ah, thats already a bit difficulter...

It's me again, from 3 pages ago. The second part of Monster Crusher is ready for a round of beta testing, and all I have left to do is program the fighting sequences. So, email me at ziggy@mail.calcware.org for a chance to play this unique game.

is this an BASIC or an ASM??

its in basic, but i have gotten positive reviews from my testers. Some basic games are better than asm games!

Oh man, that's so true. FFTOM is the best rpg for the 83+.

I'm assuming you mean "Final Fantasy" <something>. (I can't rememer the name of it. But if that's the game you're talking about, I couldn't get it to fit on my TI-83+ a long time ago. I deleted everything off my calc (no big loss) just to get it to fit and it STILL didn't work. So basically, I never got the opportunity to play the "best RPG ever for the 83+".

it's final fantasy: tales of magic. Getting back to the original comment, Part II is just about done, so email me (address above) for a copy.

does ur final fantasy game run through mirage os? if yes, can u or any1 else out there tel me how to make game run through it? it would be appreciated.

Your not going to believe how easy it is! The only requirement is that (if the program is archived), you have to have enough ram to unarchive it... I don't know why... ANYWAY all you need to do is put 1 colon (:) on the very first line of any program. That's it!

umm... correction
:"(name of game)

Why don't you guys take this conversation to DP forums? http://ti.drubu.com/comm

Um... why would we??? I think that helping people make their upcoming games is very relative. Plus, I don't see how on Earth helping someone out would bother you. But, whatver floats your boat.

I think stickboy is referring to the fact that at DP you'll find more people who are willing to talk to you about your questions since DP is a more active forum. But on topic- ziggy, can I have a copy of your game to beta test?

My apologies, stickboy, for the sarcastic comments. I, having never been to DB forums, did not know that it was a "better" forum for this type of discussion. Anyway... bye

No offense taken try my link and sign up it is faster and there are more people there.

where do i send it?

chatschaturjan86@netscape.net

actually, you don't even need to have the name of the game... Just the silly colon (:)

Thanks for the help guys.
By the way....
I just noticed how gay my name is....
LOL
I thought it would go down as my user name, which i put as deathbox45.....
gotta change that
1 more question, can any of u tell me a good program on my comp to make games? (one for beginers)

thx

TI Graphlink, to make BASIC games

im talkin more about things that will help you make phoenix games, but have good help sections too let u know wat ur doin.

also, do u know how to lock up the games so that they cant be edited on the calc? (like jezzball and such)

Hey Jakas is right.
No name needed

There's no need to call me a jackass. Jeeze. He he.

locking up games IS in TI Graphlink, cant be done else (for as far as i know)... so u wanna make ASM games? learn ASM first, then make games... and a good prog is Crimson Editor

I have a TI-83+ and I downloaded a ASM program that can be run on the calculator to lock and unlock TI-BASIC programs for editing. I'll put a link to it as the web site.

Ok, I found it but it's not the one I liked. I think it (should) still work. never used this one though.

Good luck.

Well, if you want to make games like phenox then youre going to need to know assembly. If ,in fact, you do know assembly then I don't know of any good compilers. Just look around on google or something.

Ok, to lock a game from being edited, you'll need to get a program like TI-Graph Link. The problem is that it is still possible to open it on ANY computer with TI-Graph link and edit it. But, if it's staying on a calculator, then definately get TI-Graph link. Plus that way you get to put your stuff online easier.

k thats cool.

outta curiosity, y do u guys always beg eachother to e-mail games to eachother?

y not just put them on this site for public use?

im guessin all u people are sick of hearin me talk, but too bad. :P

Just for all of u who read this, e-mail me any games u make.
For any of u that don't know, my e-mail is 019461@yorkstudent.org

Well, cya

hey jakas, i was readin page 54 bout ur chess program, and u were talkin bout stuff like matricies and strings.....
Where do u learn all that stuff?
Did u just read ur owner manual book?
Or are u just some smart senior?
But I read the book and my mind blows up.

He he he. funny. Well, You have to start somewhere right? Well that's where the manual comes in. But the manual can't do anything for you if you wan't to make quality stuff. All of the basics are in the manual, but over time ya just pick up little tips and tricks and how to use them effectivly. But if you were to ask me, I'd say it's all about experience. and if you wanna learn about lists and matrices, then the manual's the place to go.

About that stupid chess idea... Not going to happen, there are just way to many damn possible moves. I "could" do it, but it would take so long it's not worth it. But it will help with making other AI games.

Of course, it also doesn't hurt to know how a program works. but that's day one stuff.

Wow........there's a whole lot of "Re:"'s in the titles.

There's my two cents.
-dabud15

i only have a few questions. Lets see if u can answer any...


First of all, wats the arrow?? ( -> )
Also, wats the italic 0 that u get from alpha?
... and thats about it.
Once i figure that out i can start makin some basic text games (Casino)

ok, i'm startin to make sense outta stuff, so ignore my previous babbling. But I have run into a problem with ti graphlink. It will not send or recieve from my calc. (I have the black 83+) (I also have USB cable) I select that I have the gray cable, but it asks for was com line my calc is hooked up to. For ti connect, USB is in the options. Its not here. Any ideas?

First of all, good luck with writing and games if you just learned what the store button is. You'd have better luck with a math program or something.

Anyway, I had a lot of problems getting it to work too. first of all, I didn't know they had a black USB cable for the calculator. Are you positive that it's USB? second, double check all the connections (that sometimes is all it is). third, just try switching between the black and gray cable (in the settings menu). for instance, My cable is noticably black, but it only works on the gray option. fourth, make sure that you've selected com port one. If none of that works, then i can't help ya.

And just in case, the arrow=store to a variable, list, matrix, or whatever. and the O thing=Theta which is just another variable like A-Z.

JAKAS- he didn't say he had a black USB cable, he just said he had a USb cable with a black calc. Ti-Graphlink doesn't work with the USB cable because it sends at a different speed. You need Ti-Connect (latet version 1.2.1). Download from TI's site.

OH! gotcha.

Amen to that

LOL
You should try to learn assembly, and then your mind will REALLY explode...

k, first of all, cut me some slack Jacas. i've only been tryin to program bout 2 weeks. Don't act so surprised I dont know wats goin on. I am gettin there though.
And yes, I have been looking at some assembly games like phoenix, and yes, my mind then did explode.

I have a long way to go.....

Wish me luck

o, by the way to those of u who haven't quit school yet, merry christmas break!!!!

AWESOME! Same here! I think mine's like, 2 weeks or something. No more English class (only for a while though...)

-Student

Sorry, no offense meant there; just a comment from someone who's mind has exploded too many times...

Oh man! assembly is just crazy. It's kinda funny though, I've been learning C++ recently (which is WAY more complex than assembly). So after a few weeks of that, I took a look at assembly thinking it would be a breeze to learn, man was i wrong. There's just something about assembly that's realy hard to grasp. Maybe it's just me. i dunnno

Assembly is just so different from human language (because it is machine language...). C++ is closer to english than assmebly is. Heck, assembly isint' even structured like any other programming language. It's random.

Asm i s not struvtured by default, but the idea is that its up to you to create some sort of structure/pseudo-structure system to your programming

Woh, hey. I had no intent to be offensive. We all gotta start somewhere. I just meant that it took me personally a lot longer than 2 weeks to get any games going. It took me two weeks to just to get my calculator do anything usefull. I had to start off with lik, 8 different versions of "hello world" programs. Anyway, I was serious when I said "Good Luck".

Making basic games appear in mirage os somehow ruins my games. If any one knows how to stop this from happening can you please either reply to this message or e-mail me at metaforce321@hotmail.com.

Well, it ruins your games because mirage is being buggy with basic games, so dont try to play your games from mirage. If it is other games you are having trouble with, delete your mirage application and then send the latest version of mirage to your calc.