how could you hack into a public resource and delete the main directory? To some degree, it would be the same thing as if someone from netscape got the passes to a private ftp on microsoft and deleted everything (yeah right). not only is it grossly stupid and unprofessional, it is probably illegal to many extents. coming clean is probably the only redemption here.

If I got the FTP pass to Microsoft's site I sure as hell would use it. Put nude photo's of Billy Gates up there (now there's a disturbing thought) :).

Hahahahaha! That would be funny to do

That would be interesting. I wouldn't like to see the pics myself, but I would like to see him get out of that one. Who knows, it might give Clinton a break from the reporters.

So much for all the people who say they like ticalc.org better because of the "professionalism" here. I used to think that the TI-Files people were immature because they would always throw cheap insults at ticalc.org (out of jealousy). This takes the cake, though. I guess know we know who really can't stand the competition.

Please understand that Bryan's involvement in the hack/crack was not something the rest of ticalc.org's staff knew about until after the fact, and we certainly weren't happy to find out about it. We don't endorse this behavior and I assure you it doesn't reflect the mindset of the entire staff. I just wanted to make that clear.

You say the whole staff didn't know? That's a bunch of ^&*%. I was actually in #ti (irc channel where most of the members hang) and was verbally telling the whole channel (including, yes, the members) of Bryan's actions. Now, if you want to lie about this just to try to cover this up, that is fine with me, but I think everyone else should know what really happened. Not only was I permanently banned from #ti because of my truthful actions, but I also lost all previous respect for ticalc.org. Now, even though I have been a long-time TI site watcher and builder, I have to say that all of this is *&^%. All Bryan's comment was was to apologize quickly before people came to the Ti-Files and learned of his actions there. Trying to keep the professional look on the ticalc.org, the staff flat out lied, saying they "didn't know of Bryan's actions at the time." This is completely false, and this also nullified my respect for most (some actually were disgusted by Bryan's actions, but not many) of the ticalc.org staff. So, I now only come to ticalc to look at comments, and tell the TI community the real truth. Plus, I ask you to do the same. And one more thing ticalc.org.....who's the professional site now? hmmm?

First of all, you were NOT banned from #ti because of this. You were banned for repeatedly attempting to take #ti over for #ti-files (as well as flooding and making obscene remarks about ticalc.org staff members etc.).

Second, as for the actual purpose of your reply, there are only three ticalc.org staff members who frequent #ti enough for me to even know their nicks. And only one visits #ti on more than a weekly basis, Bryan Rabeler. The likeliness that any other ticalc.org staff member was present when you told #ti is about 1 in 50.

A) I was unbanned because I helped #ti regain their channel after being taken over.

B) I was banned because I made a remark against Bryan's immaturity for deleting Files.

Think before you type, oh great animal.

Uhm... you weren't bitching about it on #ti until AFTER he erased the site. That was when the members found out.. a bit too late to stop him, dont ya think?

I know you really aren't this disrespectful adam.
Act like you know how to. I know you accepted responsibility for your actions, but please don't make excuses. what's done is done. its history. forget about it.

It was just another cheap prank (though a little less morally sound than the last ones). Does anyone recall the news article posted April 1st? It was the "April Fools" prank stating that ticalc.org was being taken down because ti-files was too good. This is no different than that was. A completely harmless prank (except this one interrupted ti-files's service and forced it's operators to spend 15 minutes copying from a mirror). Certain people (everybody who read this news article) are blowing this out of proportion.

Bryan, how could you? After the years of faithful immaturity that TI-Files has shown you, along with the slander, cut-downs, IRC takeovers, leeching, rumor-spreading, vulgar and obscene text files, threats, attempted hacks, goat jokes, and a nearly unfinishable list of things they've done for you, you turn around and do something like this! I have only one thing to say to you... Revenge is sweet. (Not that I support your actions or anything.)

I don't know what to say. I'm shocked! I knew it was you guys--it only made sense. I don't see how anyone could do that. Well maybe I can. It's fun to 'hack' but I think you went a little overboard. What I don't understand is why the three of you (TI-Files, ticalc, and Dimension-TI) can't work together to make one huge-ass TI site. Can you imagine that? It'd rock!!! Anyhoo, maybe if TI-Files could forgive you, that idea of a joint page could surface. I think if the public spoke up, you guys would listen. WHAT ABOUT IT PEOPLE??? DO YOU THINK THE AWESOME THREESOME SHOULD MAKE ONE HUGE TI WEB PAGE?!?!?

While we're at it, how bout the Catholic church join forcs with Mormons and Jews and form the biggest, best church ever!! Ok, sarcasm aside now, the three sites are different entities, I daresy religions, with their own followers. There is no stopping the Jihad. All we need now is an advent to settle things once and for all.

Amen!

Brian... I dont care why you did it, I want to critic ticalc myself, but not in the way you did!

However I think you are a great person that you admit what you have done and that you are sorry!

well done!

I admire you!!!

I find it strange that some people are asking if Bryan is "REALLY sorry?" If he weren't really sorry, he wouldn't have announced his appology. It takes something to do that. Most of the people who posted here already knew that he was the one who did it but they're still "shocked". Are you "shocked" because of the apology? It seems to me that you are angry with him for apologizing.

You are judging Bryan Rabeler too harshly. You don't really know all the motives. I was one of the people who gave him the password. I knew what he would do with it. I, personally, had motives that most people do not know about. Bryan, I'm sure, had good reasons too. We both knew they had a full backup... we didn't expect to destroy their site. Just because he's admitting it doesn't mean he's bad.

I agree with you totally. Before, people didn't really "care" who did it, and now that Bryan came forward and apologized for what he did (which I agree takes some guts). I mean, come on, I knew who did it, and I don't even keep my ear to the ground listening for these sort of things. Someone up above said it, but I'll say it again: Alot of people here take the work and effort that Bryan (and the rest of the staff) puts forth into this site.

Bryan: Good job on this site, keep it up. I think it takes a helluvalot of guts to do something, not thinking about, realize you were in the wrong, and publicly apologize for it.

To the Whiners: Get a life, first of all. Second of all, at least he did apologize. How many of you (if you had done this) would have the guts to do apologize for what you did? I doubt many, if any, would. From what I've seen before with this back-and-forth "fight" between the sites, it's not like someone from TI Files wouldn't have done this, given the opportunity. What Bryan did, just delete the root directory, is actually probably one of the easiest things to fix. Most sites would have a backup (and they're stupid if they don't), so it's not much to restore it. Someone up above suggested: Why not just change a few links? That would be alot harder to fix, because once you found the first bad link, you'd have to go through and figure out which pages, if others, were affected, and fix them. A little bit more painful than restoring a backup.

Before this, I didn't know about the 'hack' to TI-Files. To say I didn't care about it isn't true, because I would have had I known, and that's why I care now. I was almost ready to post that he should resign from ticalc, but I doubt that would be in the best interests of the TI community. Might I also point out that the fact he did something wrong that was easily fixable instead of something wrong that was hard to fix DOES NOT change the fact it was wrong. Neither is it any excuse if someone they would have done the same to ticalc.

Now, don't get me wrong. All-in-all, I think Bryan's a pretty good guy, who seems to have made some mistakes. I just don't like the people congratulating him for it, or saying it wasn't bad judgement. Competition does have a habit of bringing out the worst in people - and at the same time, competition is what keeps all three sites worth visiting, because they strive to be better than each other. It has it's upsides, and has it's down sides. The three sites aren't likely to join together into a megasite soon (and like I said, it might not be a good idea), so they're just going to have to learn how to curb the down side. I'm ready to forgive this one, and let the ticalc team move on to better things... like getting those screenshots done! :)

-justin

Amen! That's my point too. But Bryan, really, that's gonna look really bad on your resumé. ;) And also, Bryan isn't sorry, he just wanted to post that so he wouldn't lose any hits and get, yes, this is more legit than any other comments, HITS. Yes, that's all he cares about. He might have a small feeling for the support of the TI community, but mostly, he's doing it for personal gain. Sorry Bryan, I don't mean to diss you that much, but you know it's true. Why don't you post that ;)