Has anyone got the really good graphical periodic table program for the TI83 that was in the archive? I really need it and can't find it anywhere. If you have it could you please email it to me at david_j_findlay@yahoo.com.au

Thanks,

David

While I may not have written Drug wars or Pimp Quest, I cannot disagree more when it comes to eliminating these games. This would be censoring the work of many hard working programmers. About two years ago I wrote a program called Digital Pimp. A couple hundreed people downloaded it and I got some positive feedback. I logged on today to try and find a copy to show to a friend. However I read the news and now it seems my program may be lost forever.

This site use to be about amateur programmers and bored students sharing there work with one another. Now it seems to have been commercialized. They are now planning to filter out what they deem inappropriate and I think this is bullshit.

As a prerequisite for using a graphing calculator a student must be at least old enough to be taking algebra, most students don?t acquire a graphing calculator till they reach geometry or later. This means they have to be at least 13 or 14. What is the point of trying to filter this kind of content from students who are apt to be writing these programs in the first place?

The whole concept doesn't sit well with me. I admit I have a bias since I have written some of the material that is likely to be removed. However I think the file archives should remain uncensored. If Texas Instruments has a problem with how students choose to use their products then they don?t need to include that material on there CD, leave ticalc.org out of it.

Yea, I agree. The archives should not be censored, but the CD could and should have been. Oh well, just hurry up and get the archives back!

Personally, I think that it was one of those dam' basic games where the programmer had put a mock porno picture in a very sucky game. there hasn't really been any good basic games unless Hitoshi made it, I don't even know why we have those archives. Drug wars is the worst assembly game unless you count 'violence' (lol)!

Since Ticalc has gone into downtime I can't get Dying Eyes for TI83+ is there any were else you could get this game?

GO TO WWW.CALC.ORG AND USE THE SEARCH OPTIONS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN. I FOUND IT IN THE83+ SECTION

this just wouldnt be civilized without my 2 cents...

I dunno about anyone else, but with the forms we had to fill out in order to get a file on the cd in the first place.... I kinda felt like we were getting the 3rd degree there, they were drilling us, asking if we copied it from anyone else, etc etc, and with the amount of time it took them to get the cd out, I was almost certain that they screened everything they put on it in the first place.

The fault clearly does lie with TI, unless ticalc told them that there was no inappropriate content. Even then, TI still should have taken a look at the stuff before selling it, it'd be irresponsible for a company to do so.

I was surprised that the CD contained games in the first place, when i first heard about it I was certain it'd just be educational material. I couldnt imagine why an education company would associate their product with "fun."

I sure hope they sold a lot of CDs to people who won't send 'em back. My monday game has to reach the masses....

http://education.ti.com/parent/
hilight/ticalccd.html
(without the break)

Did anyone see that? They're gonna give us postage-paid envelopes to send CDs to them back in. They pay for the postage whether it gets mailed back or not... thought they could certainly afford it, we've all given them (at least) $90+ for our calcs.

when do you think we will be able to download games from the archive again??

WOAH, WOAH, WOAH. I've been away from the community for a few weeks, and look what happens! Lets not go off the deep end here with this censorship thing! We (most of us, I think) live in AMERICA, land of the free, and we have something called "FREE SPEECH". We also have something called "FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION." This means we should NOT be censoring things. I think you should not delete any material from the archives. How are you going to define something as "bad", anyway? What if there is a genuinely good game, a RPG, that in one scene shows women's breasts? Would you take away the entire game just for one small image? Destroying things like drugwars is crazy! Why would you do such a thing?
Here's my solution: You should just sift out the 'inconsistant with our values' stuff into seperate folers, and to access the files ,you had to be a registered user of a certain age. You could set up an age thing in the user profile, and if you were under X years old, you could not access the folder. Just put everything objectionable in a seperate folder with lots of RED WARNINGS at the top. You could have BOLD RED TEXT saying: Everything in this folder is inconsistent with our values, we reccommend you do not download, bla bla bla... but still allow users to download those files anyway. I say just put some things in seperate folders, and when authors upload stuff, if it doesnt meet value requirements x, y, and z, they would be required to mention that it should go in those folders or else. Or else what is up to you. So, if i wanted to upload a game that in one scene had nudity, I would have to mention that nudity in my upload request, and if I failed to, you could issue me a 'warning'. Any user who wanted that file would have to have an account and would have to have an age entry in thier profile that was appropriate.
I just dont think that deleting our past is appropriate at all.

Yes, someone here has half a brain.

But things don't work like that. TI (stupidly) released a cd full of innapropriate things. It says "TI" on it so you assume it's consistent with TIs "morals." This is a major embarassment to TI (the extent to which it is we will only know when we find out how many were sold) being an educational company and all. It's TI's fault, tho it's evident that TI's probably never gonna have anything to do with ticalc.org again. Which is interesting if you think about that licensing deal they had so they could keep the "ti" in ticalc.

But yea, TI was caught with their trousers down so they went and pulled ticalc's down too, and ticalc's probably just kissing up and being bullied into making their archives clean for the customers who happened upon ticalc in relation to the CD or on the website (the link has since been removed). Can they really say no to TI?

Yea, my two cents.