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TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
Posted by Michael on 7 January 2004, 22:25 GMT

TI-84 Plus Silver EditionTI has announced two new calculators for release in the spring: the TI-84 Plus and TI-84 Plus Silver Edition. Both are fully compatible with the TI-83 Plus and TI-83 Plus Silver Edition. Both have new physical styles, an integrated USB port for computer connectivity, an internal clock, and an available kickstand.

The TI-84 Plus features 480 KB of flash memory, 24 KB of user RAM, and a 15 MHz clock speed, while the TI-84 Plus Silver Edition has 1.5 MB of flash memory, available interchangeable faceplates, and is also 15 MHz. If you haven't already guessed, the Silver Edition, like its 83+ counterpart, is silver in color.


TI-89 TitaniumFor the summer of 2004, the high-end calculator line gets a metallic lift with the TI-89 Titanium. In addition to tripling the memory to 2.7 MB of flash, it also features a built-in USB port for computer connectivity as well as the kickstand slidecase (I'm not sure if this is included or an add-on, I think it's purchased separately). All three calculators feature high-contrast LCDs and are compatible with TI's projection devices (like ViewScreen).

Update: According to this press release, the 84+ will retail at $109.99 and the 84+ SE at $129.99. It seems that these are intended 83+/83+ SE replacements. The TI-89 Titanium press release quotes a street price of $149.99.

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Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
W Hibdon  Account Info

Will the new 89 have the ROM have the same limitations as the V200's ROM? If so, i hope olvier will get on the ball with it.

Also, I would like to see the clock not ise the Auto Interupt 5 this time. I would be a whole lot more appealing to turn on if it did not.

-W-

Reply to this comment    7 January 2004, 22:57 GMT

Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
W Hibdon  Account Info

And one more thing that I want to whine about the ond 89, that might be fixed, though I doubt it.

When you have 99 entries, then you hit enter, it is as if the calc returns an error that is not displayed, then it decides to delete an entry to make room for a new one.

I realize this and the clock are part of the OS, but they will probally be coming out with an OS 3.0x when they realese it.

-W-

Reply to this comment    7 January 2004, 23:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
TheGreatOne  Account Info

>>they will probally be coming out with an OS 3.0x

I doubt it. I figure they'll probably just use a bit of code from the V200's memory, change the ABOUT screen, add on support for the USB port, slap on AMS v2.10 and call it a night.

Reply to this comment    7 January 2004, 23:20 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
W Hibdon  Account Info

Damn you and your discouraging remarks!

-W-

Reply to this comment    7 January 2004, 23:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
TheGreatOne  Account Info

Welcome to the real world... muhahaha

Seriously though, think about it. TI is a company like every other and like a company they want to make money. So why waste resources (man hours) on creating a totally new OS? Yes, I would definately like a new OS too, but it's not too likely.

Reply to this comment    7 January 2004, 23:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
W Hibdon  Account Info

But they are also in the busnies (damn i cannot spell) of pleasing their costomers. And I am reasonably sure that they know that a new AMS would be very pleasing to the customers. At least I would like it.

-W-

Reply to this comment    7 January 2004, 23:46 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
BlackThunder  Account Info
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btw, it's spelled 'business'. Hopefully. I've messed up too many times to be sure... '-_-

Reply to this comment    9 January 2004, 03:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Hey, if they can toy around with the look of the model as much as they do, I'm sure they could make a new AMS. If they want to make it appealing to the sight (some people, I'm sure, would only buy a certain calculator because it looks cool), then they should also make it appealing to the pepole that really matter, us. And by doing that, they'll probably make a new OS. Besides, they have until the summer to do it. It doesn't take that long, I'm sure.
Yes, I agree, it will be called 3.0x, I bet. I'm thinking, the OS won't be much different, but it will probably have a slightly different look, perhaps a few more options... remember, if this is going to be compatible with the regular TI-89, the OS can't change too much.

Reply to this comment    8 January 2004, 01:42 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
Matthew Marshall  Account Info
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The horriffic(sp?) truth is that we are the minority. Most people don't care all that much about their calculator's OS. They care more about how the case looks.

MWM

Reply to this comment    8 January 2004, 02:22 GMT


burntfuse  Account Info

Well, it IS easier to change the case style than to write a new OS...

Reply to this comment    8 January 2004, 21:52 GMT

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BlackThunder  Account Info
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Either way, if they have until the summer, what they're probably doing is writing a new OS. They made a new one, with a clock and Apps Desktop for the V200, I'm sure they'll do SOMETHING for the 89Ti. It'll probably be called 2.10 and not 3.00, though.

Anyways, they have a picture of it, and they've told us about it, so I think they're pretty much done with the hardware part of it.

Reply to this comment    9 January 2004, 03:18 GMT

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TheGreatOne  Account Info

No kidding. Learning C and making a flash app is complicated enough much less an entirly new OS. Atleast until you finally get used to it.

And what gives with OS v3.0x?! I'm pretty sure a sane person would start with a 0 and call it v3.00.

Reply to this comment    9 January 2004, 23:30 GMT

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W Hibdon  Account Info

Of course they will. Then 3.01, then 3.02, et cetrea. Then It will be know as AMS 3.0X.

-W-

Reply to this comment    10 January 2004, 00:16 GMT


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Chivo  Account Info

C'mon, learning C is not THAT difficult. The hardest part for me (admittedly) was really understanding how to use pointers with some function calls. But it didn't take me very long to figure that out.

Actually, learning *how* to use a language such as C is more difficult than learning the language itself, like making flash apps or making an OS as you pointed out.

Reply to this comment    11 January 2004, 05:11 GMT


~!@#$%^&*()_+
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

I can't even comprehend the kind of structural and mechanical engineering has to go into making a case that works, works with the cover, works with the keys, works with the screen, and works with the PCB, and now, works with faceplates. And, oh, BTW, that doesn't come apart into little pieces inside the calc.

Reply to this comment    13 January 2004, 03:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
Joey Gannon  Account Info
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The sad thing is, you're probably right.

Reply to this comment    8 January 2004, 09:12 GMT


Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
Neil Hodges  Account Info
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That's one reason why I might get it, but a limitation like the one you mentioned would almost make it useless.

Reply to this comment    7 January 2004, 23:46 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
W Hibdon  Account Info

Yeah, but now that Oliver has the know how on the V200, he could, with minimal difficulty, port it to the 89ti. Or atleast I hope he will/could if it is needed.

-W-

Reply to this comment    7 January 2004, 23:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Hey, that's a good idea.
TI-89 = Regular 89
89 Ti = TI-89 Titanium
(or you could reverse it like 89-TI)

We still need a shorthand way to write this that can be the standard. Nah... 89-TI doesn't work. Why don't we go with TI-89Ti? We're going to have TI-89Ti directories in the summer, I bet. :-D

Reply to this comment    8 January 2004, 01:45 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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We will most definately have directories for the TI-84 Plus/SE but it should be discussed if new directories are needed for the TI-89 Titanium edition.

Like when the 83+ SE came out it was completely compatible with the 83+ and the number of the calc was the same...that's why I am thinking that we might not.

AllI know is that I have to make 3 new basics pages when I thought I was done with that...oh well. I would rather have to do that then not see some new clacs come out.

Reply to this comment    8 January 2004, 07:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
W Hibdon  Account Info

Well, seeing that there is now a new linking protocall, there will have to be for games with link support.

-W-

Reply to this comment    9 January 2004, 00:29 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
BlackThunder  Account Info
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No, I think they still have an old linking system.

Reply to this comment    9 January 2004, 03:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
X1011  Account Info
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They didn't do that with the SE.

Reply to this comment    9 January 2004, 21:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
BlackThunder  Account Info
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The SE doesn't have a USB link.

Reply to this comment    9 January 2004, 21:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
X1011  Account Info
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But it has a new link protocal or something.

Reply to this comment    10 January 2004, 03:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
Rob van Wijk  Account Info

The protocol is the same, there is only a new way to access the link port (the old method still works though).

Reply to this comment    10 January 2004, 03:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
X1011  Account Info
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But the link doesn't work with ASM programs. If you can use the old way, wouldn't it still work?

Reply to this comment    10 January 2004, 03:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
Joey Gannon  Account Info
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We won't need 89Ti directories, because the languages should be 100% compatible. As far as the 84, we probably will.

Reply to this comment    8 January 2004, 09:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
TheGreatOne  Account Info

I agree. Why would you need a whole new directory for a mirror image with programs that have the same extention (.89x)?!
As for the 84 you had better have a new directory...

Reply to this comment    9 January 2004, 23:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
Rob van Wijk  Account Info

Why would you need a new dir for the 84+? Just because programs that use the clock won't work on the 83+? There is no directory for the 83+SE either, even though programs that use the DBUS, the extra RAM or the crystals don't work on regular 83+'s.

Reply to this comment    10 January 2004, 03:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-84 Plus, SE; TI-89 Titanium
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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should != will :-)
Let's see about how compatible they will be. I hope they will in fact be 100% compatible, but this isn't quite something certain.

Reply to this comment    10 January 2004, 06:04 GMT

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