Will the new 89 have the ROM have the same limitations as the V200's ROM? If so, i hope olvier will get on the ball with it.

Also, I would like to see the clock not ise the Auto Interupt 5 this time. I would be a whole lot more appealing to turn on if it did not.

-W-

And one more thing that I want to whine about the ond 89, that might be fixed, though I doubt it.

When you have 99 entries, then you hit enter, it is as if the calc returns an error that is not displayed, then it decides to delete an entry to make room for a new one.

I realize this and the clock are part of the OS, but they will probally be coming out with an OS 3.0x when they realese it.

-W-

>>they will probally be coming out with an OS 3.0x

I doubt it. I figure they'll probably just use a bit of code from the V200's memory, change the ABOUT screen, add on support for the USB port, slap on AMS v2.10 and call it a night.

Damn you and your discouraging remarks!

-W-

Welcome to the real world... muhahaha

Seriously though, think about it. TI is a company like every other and like a company they want to make money. So why waste resources (man hours) on creating a totally new OS? Yes, I would definately like a new OS too, but it's not too likely.

But they are also in the busnies (damn i cannot spell) of pleasing their costomers. And I am reasonably sure that they know that a new AMS would be very pleasing to the customers. At least I would like it.

-W-

btw, it's spelled 'business'. Hopefully. I've messed up too many times to be sure... '-_-

Hey, if they can toy around with the look of the model as much as they do, I'm sure they could make a new AMS. If they want to make it appealing to the sight (some people, I'm sure, would only buy a certain calculator because it looks cool), then they should also make it appealing to the pepole that really matter, us. And by doing that, they'll probably make a new OS. Besides, they have until the summer to do it. It doesn't take that long, I'm sure.
Yes, I agree, it will be called 3.0x, I bet. I'm thinking, the OS won't be much different, but it will probably have a slightly different look, perhaps a few more options... remember, if this is going to be compatible with the regular TI-89, the OS can't change too much.

The horriffic(sp?) truth is that we are the minority. Most people don't care all that much about their calculator's OS. They care more about how the case looks.

MWM

Well, it IS easier to change the case style than to write a new OS...

Either way, if they have until the summer, what they're probably doing is writing a new OS. They made a new one, with a clock and Apps Desktop for the V200, I'm sure they'll do SOMETHING for the 89Ti. It'll probably be called 2.10 and not 3.00, though.

Anyways, they have a picture of it, and they've told us about it, so I think they're pretty much done with the hardware part of it.

No kidding. Learning C and making a flash app is complicated enough much less an entirly new OS. Atleast until you finally get used to it.

And what gives with OS v3.0x?! I'm pretty sure a sane person would start with a 0 and call it v3.00.

Of course they will. Then 3.01, then 3.02, et cetrea. Then It will be know as AMS 3.0X.

-W-

C'mon, learning C is not THAT difficult. The hardest part for me (admittedly) was really understanding how to use pointers with some function calls. But it didn't take me very long to figure that out.

Actually, learning *how* to use a language such as C is more difficult than learning the language itself, like making flash apps or making an OS as you pointed out.

I can't even comprehend the kind of structural and mechanical engineering has to go into making a case that works, works with the cover, works with the keys, works with the screen, and works with the PCB, and now, works with faceplates. And, oh, BTW, that doesn't come apart into little pieces inside the calc.

The sad thing is, you're probably right.

That's one reason why I might get it, but a limitation like the one you mentioned would almost make it useless.

Yeah, but now that Oliver has the know how on the V200, he could, with minimal difficulty, port it to the 89ti. Or atleast I hope he will/could if it is needed.

-W-

Hey, that's a good idea.
TI-89 = Regular 89
89 Ti = TI-89 Titanium
(or you could reverse it like 89-TI)

We still need a shorthand way to write this that can be the standard. Nah... 89-TI doesn't work. Why don't we go with TI-89Ti? We're going to have TI-89Ti directories in the summer, I bet. :-D

We will most definately have directories for the TI-84 Plus/SE but it should be discussed if new directories are needed for the TI-89 Titanium edition.

Like when the 83+ SE came out it was completely compatible with the 83+ and the number of the calc was the same...that's why I am thinking that we might not.

AllI know is that I have to make 3 new basics pages when I thought I was done with that...oh well. I would rather have to do that then not see some new clacs come out.

Well, seeing that there is now a new linking protocall, there will have to be for games with link support.

-W-

No, I think they still have an old linking system.

They didn't do that with the SE.

The SE doesn't have a USB link.

But it has a new link protocal or something.

The protocol is the same, there is only a new way to access the link port (the old method still works though).

But the link doesn't work with ASM programs. If you can use the old way, wouldn't it still work?

We won't need 89Ti directories, because the languages should be 100% compatible. As far as the 84, we probably will.

I agree. Why would you need a whole new directory for a mirror image with programs that have the same extention (.89x)?!
As for the 84 you had better have a new directory...

Why would you need a new dir for the 84+? Just because programs that use the clock won't work on the 83+? There is no directory for the 83+SE either, even though programs that use the DBUS, the extra RAM or the crystals don't work on regular 83+'s.

should != will :-)
Let's see about how compatible they will be. I hope they will in fact be 100% compatible, but this isn't quite something certain.