Survey posted 2002-06-12 19:00 by Magnus.

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I tried to update someone's TI-89 ROM, but forgot that I was using a modified rom unsigned by TI. It deleted his ROM, then refused to flash the new one. I had to take his calc home and flash it with my graphlink...

Modifed ROM? Where do you get those and what do they do?

Things like the HW2 Patch, and that other program that increases mem on HW1s and Hexedited ROMS.

Speaking of hexeditors, has anyone seen one that will let you edit the rom (hw2, v.2.05) on-calc? Maybe Mr. Hw2Patch will be willing to do something similar. using it, you could change the text & stuff. If you open your VTI ROM in Edit.com (not webpage, goto dos prompt & type 'edit') you can change the text. This would be cool to do on-calc.

Sounds like a very dangerous program.
For the 89, it is very possible with such a program to destroy your calc in such a way that it is impossible to upload a new rom, without removing the physical flash from the calc, reprogram it, and solder it back.

If someone was to write one, (s)he should at least not allow writing to certain low adresses.

I was thinking something more along the lines of a "guided" editor, something which might let you change certain strings of text (like "tools" to "stuff" and "main" to "root"), as well as install new ROM vectors.
On different lines, has anyone seen a RAM hexeditor? This would be possibly more useful. How 'bout one that runs on HW2 AMS2.x? Those are rare.

I did the exact same thing once.

Hm... you forgot one

"No, but I could if I wanted to..."

I would have chosen that one in that case...

My program prgmCRASH crashes your calculator :)

Making a program to crash on most calculators isn't hard at all, just an exec statement with a random value.

Yeah, but with the TI-82 you have to use assembly.

One time I distributed a program/pseudo game that disabled the link port after you ran in three times... It was kinda funny, but it is easily fixed.

Cool!
I want it!!
Where do I get it?

Ugh, I lost it when my computer crashed over a year ago and I never uploaded it to any site... See, it was back when I was just learning ASM, and I don't have anything left from back then...
Sorry...

It's okay........

Astounding! No one (not no_one) has voted for "No, I don't know anything about calculators". I'll just watch as people vote for that now.

BTW, I picked "Yes, I love breaking things...", although I don't "love" "breaking" things; I merely enjoy messing things up to confuse people.

Same here.

You mean people!
Always be nice to others.
Now go to your room!

OK, sorry. I'll think about it next time (but that doesn't mean that I won't do it :)

:)
When I always have to say "I'm sorry" it always means "I'm sorry for getting caught", Not "I'm sorry for what I did."

At my school, when I pimp, I tell girls that they've been bad & sould go to my room!

*sob* not no_one?

Well, obviously you hadn't chosen that option, so, yeah, not no_one. OK, that looks like bad grammar, but it really isn't. ;-)

(tempting fate by showing my lang. arts competency at a math-related site)

technically, double negatives are not grammatically incorrect. many writers use them to add emphasis to make their point clearer (among other things). Now, I will not NOT post PARADE!!!

see, I just posted PARADE!!!.

I like confounding people. like:
open [2nd] mem
go appvars
delete mirage's appvar
you can then change their password and keep them from getting into the memory screen! (enabling Save the Whales will annoy them, too!)
I have an 89+ (kidding) and learned this in 3 minutes by myself.

89+?

It would be interesting if they made a TI-83 Plus Gold Edition with 3 MB of memory...The Ultimate Ultimate Graphing/Gaming Calculator!

The ultimate graphing calculator would be an 86+. The 83 series is not as good as the 86, except for the archive.

NAAAAHHHH... A TI-81 Plus! Something more for no_one_2000_ to dust...

Don't talk about dust-
The glue on the little rubber pads on the 83+ attract dust. I tried to clear the dust out by scraping it off with the blunt edge of a swiss army knife-
Now the rubber pads keep falling off.

my rubber pads fell off a week or so before the warranty expired. I emailed ti-cares@ti.com, and they pmailed me 6 replacements for fre();. I had to fax them my reciept, though.
I used a pushpin to get the glue out of the corners. I always carry an assortment of pokey things in my binder.

No way! I TI-85+ would be the ONLY way to Go!

w00t.

Naaaaah...A TI-80 Plus!

And it's w00t! not w00t. no_one_2000_ will now incinerate you...maybe...

no_one_2000_? He gets it wrong half the time too. It is I who will incinerate him. And send his ashes to Uranus.

Can I incinerate the next guy? Like CALCDRONE?

<w00t!, not w00t.>

I see. Oh, please forgive me, mighty 133+5p34k3r5! (is that right?...if it's not, I mean leetspeakers)

<Naaaaah...A TI-80 Plus!>

lol...Seriously, though, I think a TI-85+ would be the greatest calc since the 83+ SE...which I don't own, although I *reaallly* want one. Personally, I think the 83+ SE is the ugliest calc I've ever seen, but you can't beat a 1.5 MB archive...yet!

w00t!
sn00t!

Voyage 200

They should make a TI-82+!

With strings, 5GB of RAM, all the functions that the TI-89 has, an internal clock, a port for external memory cartidges, anti-crash protection, a speaker, a PARADE! machine, and an incinerator.

PETITION TO MAKE TI-82+

Oh and don't forget the mp3 player

Oh yes, you're right! How could I possibly forget the MP3 player? I must be losing my mind. Oh, yes, and of course the CD player/burner.

Just go out and buy one of those trendy 'Swiss Army' knives, they come with all of these and lots, lots more.

WHAT DOES SAVE THE WHALES DO?

Save the whales! Collect the whole set!

it does somehting like mess up your calc when you visit the y= screen? i don't know. this is all hearsay. turn it off for the ultimate graphing experience!

I know the experience you reference to.
It writes RAM-clearing jibberish in all of the Y-Vars.
It is an Omnicalc-related problem, not Save the Whales.

Tell me about it...UGH!

Oh! Try this on your TI-82! (Yay) I found this out after viewing the TI-83 similar bug...

Press Y= and type {8,9,9,7,0,2}
[2nd]+[QUIT]
[2nd] [Y-VARS] [Function] [Y1]
[STO>]
[2nd] [L1]
[ENTER]
[2nd]
[STAT PLOT]

Okay, now even worse...
Change turn STAT PLOT 1 on, and change the type to the 4th type (the one with vertical bars), go back to STAT PLOT, and change it back to type 1 and turn it off. Then go to STAT PLOT and it looks REALLY WEIRD!

Did anyone try it yet?

Well?

no one tried it

except for no_one

Save the trees!
Eat the beavers!

Yum! - Chewwy on the outside and crunchy on the inside.
Dont' you just love them beavers.

PS. Save the mice.

Save the Wales,
Save the Wales,
Save those big fat funky wales,
something something something else........
Shoot the Seals

some cheech and chong thing,
THEY ARE (WERE) CANADIAN TOO!!!
w00t!

Save all of the United Kingdom, not just Wales!

Stuff the UK lets just save good ol' Cymru.

Oh ironic really, given that he made that statement attached to a welsh blokes statement.

SAVE THE TI-82s!

Ahh, a fellow 82 user glad to see some of you still out there. Hopefully will get my first prog. uploaded soon - if I ever get BB sorted.

What does Save the Whales do, anyway? I haven't had time to figure it out yet.

It is a slogan that encourages people to think about the welfare of those wonderful oversized soap bars. Doesn't really take long to figure out does it.

PS. I don't actually aprove of putting whales to the above use, don't panic.