First off: Great program.

I may start using my 83+ again...

One really big favor: Could you add the feature to make it use "insert mode" by default (or make it toggle like on the 89). Thats my single grude now with the 83+ OS (the other was clipboard, but you did that).

Thx.

there should be a subfolder in the ticalc archives for omnicalc basic programs
Does that sound good?
id hate to down load something, and have my calc crash because omnicalc isnt installed
if i ever take it off..

If you attempt to run a BASIC program that uses the extra functions, without Omnicalc on the calculator, it will just give an ERR:VERSION.

so it would be like sending a prog with ower case to an 83 o.k.
But it would still tick me off

yes, but does omnicalc have a lower case font thing on it? And who would be stupid enough to send lower case text to an 82 series calc?

hmmm...idea...

someone (cough*T*cough*I*cough) should redo the 86 ti-os for flash technology and/or archival space.

Also, you mispelled "lower." Unless you meant a case that owed you something.

In the options menu you can enable/disable lowercase on the calc.

And the fonts have all 255 characters (lower/uppercase, and a whole lot more.)

That's what I'm hoping TI would do, except I'm pretty sure they never will. Oh well.

Just the OS, eh? Not the actual physical hardware, like adding flash ROM? Sounds kind of ... stupid...

well, I thought that all the z80's had almost identical hardware but they just made them totally different by the different os's.

then again, how could that be true when the 86 has a ton more total (not counting the 83+) than the 82/83 <i> and </i> more functions? Note: I know that html tags don't work.

It could have something to do with the OS.

The TI86 is all RAM. No ROM. Therefore, no FLASH apps.

<trying to play devil's advocate> <or maybe just being stupid, again>

If that's so, then how do you have an os at all, if the calc is totally ram?

(or maybe there's a secret code only the TI guys know that exits the os and allows you to put a custom os on there) (or maybe I am just digging myself into a big hole)



(ahhhh!! the hole is caving in!!!! SAVE MEEE!!!)

I believe that lord_nightrose is referring to Flash ROM ...

This is what the Assembly Studio 86 Help file has to say about the memory on the 86:

The TI-86 calculator includes 128K of RAM, but because 16-bit values are used to address data, only 64K of data can be accessed at once. The calculator gets around this limitation by using a paged memory model. The RAM is broken up into 8 16K pages. Page 0 is static and always loaded, and pages 1-7 are swapped into a common memory area.
The ROM is similarly divided up into 16 pages (256K total), with ROM page 0 always being accessible.

So, apparently there IS ROM on the 86, solely for the OS (since the ROM is 256K and the OS is also 256K, I would assume the OS is stored in the ROM, which is there only for the OS). Also, since the OS is stored on ROM, which is read-only, it is not possible to replace the existing OS without replacing the actual ROM.

yeah, I was talking about flash ROM.

I actually did that transfer successfully. Just the last two lowercase characters of each string were extended into a bunch of crazy symbols. It didn't affect the program performance at all. No version error.

They should also make one for programs that use Symbolic's tokens.

Anywho, I like the recent interaction between apps nowadays. Symbolic with Pretty Print, Omnicalc with Symbolic, wonderful. Now, all we need is a new MirageOS that allows you to access all DS apps if they are on the calc, kinda like TI Connect does with the StudyCards creator and TI Interactive. It would be really cool if Mirage could interface with Calcsys and Calendar so you could do stuff in there without having to exit. I know that there is a version of Calendar for MirageOS, but still, Mirage interfacing with apps would be really cool.

Omnicalc with MirageOS and Symbolic and PrettyPt!

w00t!

Is there a 89 version available? Methinks it would be a good idea.

The 89 already has all of the functions, doesn't it?

The 89 only has three fonts (and only two are accessible with BASIC), but otherwise it has nearly everything. It doesn't have some of the functions of Symbolic built in (i.e. arccsc, arccot, etc.), but it makes up for that by allowing the users to write their own custom programs.

three fonts? normal, pretty print, ????????
What are they?
It's hard to type while playing on the calculator w/ one hand...

Pretty print isn't a font. It's just the way the calc displays math expressions. The three fonts are small (6px high, variable width), medium/normal (6px by 8px), and large (I don't know its dimensions off the top of my head; probably 8px by 12px; anyone?).

The large font is 8px by 10px.

Click the "(Web Page)" link to go to my set of images that let you use the large font set in BASIC.