HORAY!

So pretty...

GAH! It looks horrible! Give me something functional and efficient, not an iMac for math!

Especially the new keypad layout. Guh...

Exactly.

I don't like how the [up] and [down] keys are connected like on the 84+, but i'll sacrifice anything for the 2.7 flash ROM.

My sentiments exactly.

-W-

I picked my 89T up at a Best Buy a few days ago. I'm very happy with my purchase. The calculator was a bit fatter then I had expected but it does have a very solid feel to it. Sorry 49 users but all of the keys work.

You might be interested in knowing that HP redesigned the keyboard of the 49g+ - it now works much better then the first few batches. It is still not as good as the 48 series is supposed to be but perfectly usable.

Besides the keyboard and screen, the HP49g+ still leaves this in the dust :-(

75MHz ARM vs 12MHz Motorola. HP has IR port + flash memory card slot for 512MB in a calculator.

I saw a comparision between the 2 ages ago but I cannot remember the link.

^See link for comparison^

I found the link. That compairs the two. http://alpage.ath.cx/hptute/compare.htm

Well, true, but I heard that the hp49g+'s 75MHz ARM processor has to emulate the old processor since HP didn't want to port the OS over to the new one.

The majority of the hp rom is emulated. But some key routines where re-written in arm assembly. For floating point intensive math the hp49g+ is reported to be 3x faster, for other operations (like the CAS) I read that it was 6x faster.

-Samuel

yep. Thats so tons of old software will run. Theres no reason why people can't write games etc in ARM and take full advantage of the cpu.

All my keys work -- they just make a little more noise than I'm comfortable with in an exam environment. The 89 still comes out for tests.

Not to be negative, but is there some innovation with this new calculator over the normal 89 appart memory and USB?

Nope...

It has Hardware version 3.

That's more an annoyance than an innovation...

That is exactly what I was thinking. I remember the switch from HW1 to HW2. Everything was different. You could not do the same things in the same way as you could do before. I just hope that the HW3 calcs are not so hard. So long as Oliver ports both ID and Xpand to the 89ti, and ttstart works, I will be good.

-W-

* It seems Xpand is not needed on the Titanium, the full archive appears to be available out of the box.
* ttstart already works (though only the version in the TIGCC source code... I'll upload a binary).
* What _is_ needed is a HW3Patch to get things like TSRs (including ID), DLLs and nested function trampolines (everything that used the ghost space before) to work. This is being currently beta-tested in private (just e-mail me for a copy), a public beta will be available soon.
* There is also a need for a patcher to remove ghost space use from programs. (Without this patcher, C programs need to be recompiled with the latest TIGCC beta, and assembly programs need to be edited and reassembled.) This will probably be available for beta-testing as soon as tomorrow (though this is _not_ a promise).

See the Custom Beta Tests section of the TICT HQ message board for details.

I did not think about TSR's not working on the HW3. I was thinking more along the lines of it not working because of the new AMS (if there is one, I don't know). I used to have quite a few TSR's when I had AMS 2.05, but I never got them back for 2.09. I hope you do find a solution to the problem, or rather, a workable one (I remember something about a patch being really complicated or the like).

-W-

<< I was thinking more along the lines of it not working because of the new AMS (if there is one, I don't know). >>

There is an AMS 3 and it may break those programs which use ugly hacks (I'll have to check my event hooks carefully, I need some hacks to access a few private globals in AMS), but in most cases, this will not be an issue.

<< I used to have quite a few TSR's when I had AMS 2.05, but I never got them back for 2.09. >>

Any specific ones? I can't think of any...

<< I hope you do find a solution to the problem, or rather, a workable one (I remember something about a patch being really complicated or the like). >>

That was about TitaniK, the launcher for kernel-based programs withOUT a HW3Patch.
Patching _nostub programs is (relatively) easy, and kernel-based programs will be just as easy to patch once a HW3Patch-based kernel is out.

No, but its the same price, so if you dont have an 89 already, just get this one...