Survey posted 2000-04-16 18:46 by Andy.

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I currently own a TI-83+, and if I got another one I would get the TI-92+

yer just gettin it for them +'s ain't cha! ahuck!

Get a TI-92 Plus. They are worth the money.

I'd get an 89 myself - same functionality for a lower cost, and less large and unwieldy.

--BlueCalx

And no geometry, smaller screen and no QWERTY keyboard. The TI-89 also has too little battery capacity.

>And no geometry,
can't comment on what I don't know
>smaller screen
Point, but that isn't worth the extra cash, really, to do MATH? (hehe, now it's my time to nag about games)
>and no QWERTY keyboard.
Well, yeah, that probably comes in handy if you want do write letters in your class, but then why do you need the bigger screen for games then? Not like it's that noticeable.
> The TI-89 also has too little battery capacity.
Really? Mine doesn's seem so, though it's almost new (2 months use), and somehow I do doubt that, but I would thank one who would back that up.

Cd_Slayer

I'll agree with that. I have batteries that will run my 89 when they won't run my 85 any more. If that has any pertinance to anything.

Laura

Although it seems that the batteries will last for a long time, it also seems that when the batteries get to a certian level of energy left, they no longer let you transfer programs to your 89...has any1 else noticed that?
-Chris

It is that way for the 83+. When batteries are low, sometimes it will send half of a program over, and then cut off.

Matt H.

I haven't had my 89 long enough to tell, my 85 just kind of faaaddesss awaaaay.

Laura

For the TI-89 to transfer a ROM or something, it takes time, so it checks the battery power before it sends to make sure it can finish completely.

Yes, that's right. And It’s not only because it’s a long process. Writing in archive memory consumes more energy, when I upgraded my 89 to ams2.03, batteries died completely. (the calc rewrites all, that’s 1Mb or more).

Well, the 89 uses AAA batteries, and the 92+ uses AA batteries, which IMHO it really needs with the power consuming (compared to Z80 calcs) hardware such as the 68k.

Apparently, I should've kept my mouth shut about that, since my batteries have just gone almost dead. Actually, I'd like to know if it is normal when batt is low for the calculator to shut off automaticly, because it did so while I was playing Chess (damn. I tough cheating :) ), and while I was doing a 3D Graph! Damn, damn, damn. Oh well, I guess I should've expected it...

The joke was supposed to be "Tough cheating by the TI-89". Can't I get a break? I hate writing without a spell checker (yeah, yeah, shout loser all you want... damn)

You're funny Paulo. :)

Do you mean that your native language is Spanish? Like me???? It's good to know that I'm not the only one!!!
anyway, for spelling I use Microsoft Word, Spanish, French and English, everything thanks to Word !

Spanish? I'm insulted!
:)
Not, I'm portuguese, like, from Portugal, like, that little country nobody knows about...
*sigh*

Cd_Slayer

Why is it that the Portuguese people hate the Spanish people and vice versa, can't we all just get a long?

You know, Espana y Portuguesa son hermanos(as).

Or something like that, my Spanish really sucks.

Well, here in South America we insult Spanish people (Galician’s). Jokes about them are really funny.
en todo caso, España y Portugal son hermanas.

Querem que eu comece a falar em português também, é?
I'm not particularly fond on spanish, but I don't dislike them either. I guess we don't like them because they ruled us more than once. I don't like them because a lot of them think we should understand them, which we do, being one of the more lenguage-apt countrys, and don't give a rat's ass about what we say. But I don't descriminate, though, it was just a joke Laura, because many people even in Europe think we're a part of Spain, and actually that is also somewhat our fault... But that's seriously Off-Topic.

Cd_Slayer

Tengo el 82, 85 y 89. Me encanta mi 89. Yo uso mi 85 y 89 mas que mi 82. Conozco 85 y 82 BASIC, no conozco 89 BASIC muy bien. No quiero el 92+ porque el es muy grande. Tengo hambre, hasta luego.

Laura

(Please excuse any mistakes, I'm not a fluent speaker)

Está perfecto!!! El único error que tuviste:
"No quiero el 92 porque el es muy grande"
corrección:
"No quiero LA 92 porque es muy grande"
(-->as saying "la calculadora")
(-->don't repeat "la")

Yeah, whatever. How about giving the translation too?

yes, but not here, there is no space

I still missed the joke....

So did I... But with each comment, the space gets smaller... How about placing the translation in a new thread?

I wonder how 640*480 people read this...

Tengo 1280 *1024, no soy problemas.

Laura

Ha! Read this:

Ik zit op 1024*768, en het begint nu al een beetje heel erg krap te worden, dus ik vraag me af hoe het met anderen af moet lopen. Is dit trouwens de diepste thread ooit?

Okay, off topic, but cool anyway.

what bout a 320*200 res screen or even a 160*100 :P

No soy comprehendo.

no entiendo
no comprendo
(I don't understand)
:)

Wow, these comments are causing the entire page to scroll! Cool!

no tengo problema
(I don't have problem)

You're using 640*480? You need a better monitor.

!Gracias Amalfi!

O.K. Shut up now and talk in english. I only know a little french...spanish is like a big black hole here(yeah, I live in New Mexico, shut up.)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ich verstehe nicht. uhh...no habla espanol(?)
sorry, i'm in german. please keep it in english for those of us who don't speak your languages.

Oh, I wish I was learning German instead of Spanish.

Many of you are asking for a translation of this post. Here it is:

"I have the 82, 85, and 89. I love my 89. I use my 85 and 89 more than my 82. I know 85 and 82 BASIC, but I don't know 89 BASIC very well. I don't want the 92+ because it's too big. I am hungry, see you later."

btw, Laura, tu español es muy bueno.

Thanks. :)

Here we know very well who made who. Portugal is Portugal, Spain is Spain. Who thinks Portugal is part of Spain must be totally out of this world!!!

Or must be one of those dumb American's who thinks that New Mexico is part of Mexico. Grrr. New Mexico became a state in 1912, yet people think its part of Mexico. Do you know how many people see the New Mexico license plate and remark, "I wonder if they speak English?" I hate it when people say that. Face it, people are stupid.

Laura

Ok, correction, on that case is "Americans are stupid", sorry to say... But yes, people on a general basis are stupid. (for my complete theory, please read The Dilbert Series)


Cd_Slayer

Of course it doesn't matter dear, but keep trying, you'll get it. (ouch... THAT hurt) Just kidding love. Oh, you don't me calling you that do you?

I MIND IT!!!!

Steve

wow. laura and I are actually agreeing with someone else besides ourselves! totally nifty!
Steve

>Well, yeah, that probably comes in handy if you want do write letters in your class,
>but then why do you need the bigger screen for games then?
>Not like it's that noticeable.

So? These are separata advantages, so it's better for games AND math!

Well the reason why i have a 89 rather thana 92+ is that u can use the 89 on the act or SAT tests (in Colorado) otherwise i would have definetly got the 92

No geomety? Big deal, if you're using the Ti-89 or Ti-92, you're in a higher math and should know the geometry.

Smaller screen? It's the second largest of all the calcs, behind the Ti-92 of course, and that's not worth complaining about and is definitely not worth the money.

No QWERTY keyboard? Thank God... If it had one I wouldn't be able to use the Ti-89 on my SAT and other such tests. Some may consider it cheating, but because the Ti-89 is allowed and the Ti-92 is not (only because of the QWERTY keyboard), I'll gladly take the Ti-89.

Little battery capacity? Now I know for a fact that isn't true. I got my Ti-89 in early December 1999, and I've used it nearly every day for a solid hour (on the average - calculus does that to a guy). I still have not changed the baterries. I've changed the batteries on my Ti-83 once, and it gets far less use, ya know, because I have a Ti-89.

In other words, don't waste your money on a Ti-92. It's bulkier and more expensive for just slightly better features, but it can't be used when it's really needed. And if you're focusing on gaming, you need to get your priorities straight. Nintendos and Playstations and computers are a helluva lot better for games.

And now to relate to the subject of my message, the Ti-83+. Only a few features make the Ti-83+ necessary: stats and finances. And Flash Apps are being written for the Ti-89, so in a few short months even the Ti-83+ will be useless to me. Well, that's enough from me.

"The Keyboard"... so what, if you payed THAT much money you would have at least another calc to take the test... besides they usually supply you with one, like a cheezy 82, lol, and they would have to erase your memory, so whats the advantage??

"The Screen"... your point? the calc's processor still has to deal with more pixels, the reason why the 89 is slower, which is where the 92's are faster, maybe not alot but they are suited better for it.

"The Batteries"... A solid hour and didnt have to change... that's unbeliveable... i had my little 83+ running, just on the cursor, and it almost went dead after that time, imagine that since the 83+ uses less power than a 89...

"The Bulkiness"... Even if that's a word the size makes up for rhe keyboard, screen, and other function keys. Oh, and if you plan to have a Playstation always along with you around school, GOOD LUCK.

"THE TI-83+"... Useless eh.... hard to believe that too. Just mindless gibberish about pointless subjects, since you think that they will be forever lost.. why would you think people would start buying 89's?? Some ppl, unlike me, just plain dont have $150 or so dollars to just spend on a calculator that they would only use for 1 class... some ppl DO more classes but thats not the point I'm stressing. And TI isnt giving up on the 83+.. more apps are coming and wont be out for a few YEARS... the guy who made 83+ ASM Guru, or whatever, is working with TI on 3 or 4 83+ he has. Oh, but the 83+ is going to be useless.......
Mike
creator of Mwin2x

Unlike my 85 which will soon be discontinued. SNIF SNIF!

Why don't u just upgrade to the TI-86? Those things ROCK!!!

Well, I have an 89, and I don't feel like buying an 86. I'm going to remain forever faithful to my 85.

Laura

Do you apply your logic to calculators to your logic in dating?

Hmm, did you meant that as a 2 way comment?

Cd_Slayer

Yeah, kind of, but don't worry, I have no intention of hitting on your precious Laura, ok?

you'd better not!
oy, hablo espanol! (sorry, but I can't figure out the tilde), perro, solo un poco...

ttfn!
Steve
(ps: I have an 83+, and I want a 92+, but since the 89 are virtually the same, I think I'll get that (also, they're allowed in SATs and such...)

oh yeah, from the other board:
That TxtView thing was really awesome! if anyone has an 83Plus with Ion, go get TxtView...since the calculators are allowed on SATs, TxtView allows you to type your notes on your PC, and trannsffer them to your calc! not all calculators are for math...

and btw, to the guys saying remarks (nicely) towards the Casios, GET YOUR OWN SITE AND STAY OFF OF OURS! This is strictly Texas Instruments, and no true and faithful TI owner would betray the nation by buying on of those...!!

"oy, hablo espanol! (sorry, but I can't figure out the tilde), perro, solo un poco..."


Literal translation:
oye, I talk spanish!, dog, only a little...

perro = dog
pero = but

duh. what a total dumbo is Steve. typographical error. please excuse the moron inside my think-tank...(and thanks for pointing it out...)

LOL

I thought that looked weird. I thought you were just being stupid.

Eres tonto, eres muy tonto...

I owned two Casios before I bought my TI-89 (I still own my CFX-9850g). There is nothing wrong with Casios as far as just using them as calculators. The only problem is that the computer link for the Casios cost more than the calculator and that Casios have no ASM capability. Many of them have color screens which is an advantage when analyzing multiple graphs. A few (and I mean only a few) things are more convenient on a Casio CFX-9850g than on a TI-89. I even benchmarked my Casio CFX-9850g and my TI-89 in two tests (graphing a sine wave and integrating X^2+X+1) and the Casio was actually twice as fast at graphing than my TI-89. My TI-89, as expected, whipped the Casio in the integration test, being almost three times faster. My point is that all calculators have a few advantages over certain other calculators, not that I would ever give up my TI-89 for my Casio just becuase the Casio graphs sine waves faster.

well, okay. but all I wass trying to say is:
if you are a TI-enthusiasist, use the ticalc.org site
otherwise, (burn in hell :-) ), go get another site that supports your model.
the only thing I see Casio worth (I owned a fx-7000 or something, no programs worth seeing...no link cable...no web-site...argh!)...is a high-tech door-stop, or a really nifty lookin paper weight...

I'll have all of you know that Laura is MY GIRL!! YOU CAN'T HAVE HER!! Hear that Paulo, Steve and all you other girlfriend stealers. The REAL Flesh and Blood Laura Thompson is MINE!!! MINE MINE MINE!!!

Alexander the Lionhearted

Really? Snif...

Amalfi, are you avaiable? >;-)

actually, Amalfi is , and will always be , a MAN

AGH, PLEASE SOMEONE DELETE MY COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where did I get the idea you were a girl from? Sorry...
(there goes another joke again)

Cd_Slayer

Heh heh heh, you're desperate, well let me tell you, I don't think you'd want her once you know her like I do. Only two cracked out total wierdos like us could ever get along. But I'll give you permission to harass her all you want. I don't care. But I will agree with Laura when I say, "You're funny Paulo."

No hard feelings

Alexander the Lionhearted

Damn. You're lucky I'm not funny enough to joke about you, I can only joke about myself, well, because I AM a joke. You'd be suprised at how weird I am too. Anyways, Lionheaded, I live on the other side of the Atlantic so, I want have to see you ever, so that's a bless.

No hard feelings taken, Alexander the notsogreat.

Cd_Slayer

(just joking with you...)

To anyone that has or is considering replying to this e-mail:
I really feel sorry for Laura. This would be the perfect premise for a Jerry Springer episode.
"Next week on Jerry Springer, 'My girlfriend has been cheating on twenty different people online.'"
Heh heh heh

Ummm. no comment.