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Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Jonathan Katz  Account Info
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Survey idea by Morgan Davies.

Reply to this comment    11 April 2005, 19:10 GMT


Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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I just wanted to say that the results of this could play a huge role if this is going to be done this year. I wouldn't be able to directly add the screenshots like in tha past, but could still organize the system if we all are willing to do this. It is mostly going to be 83 and 83+ stuff this year.

Thanks Jon!

Reply to this comment    11 April 2005, 20:56 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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I'd help but I only have TI-Connect which sux at screenshotting. I can't use VTI since i have a ti-84+se and nobody seems to know how to get a ROM from one...

Reply to this comment    11 April 2005, 22:49 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Chris Oliver  Account Info

Just google it. I found ones for several different calcs. The site had been contacted by TI saying the ROMs shouldn't be downloadable, but the zips were still there and the only thing that was missing was the extension on the files. You should be able to find some fairly easy. I have a TI-84 SE too and I really wanted VTI to work, I also asked my friend if he could dump his calc too, but he found a ROM online instead.

Reply to this comment    11 April 2005, 23:46 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
tdavis07 Account Info

If you have a silver link, you can use TILP

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 01:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Shawn Zhang Account Info

No you can't. TiLP causes a link error when you try to do a rom dump with a silverlink (at least with my 83+)

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 21:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
chris w  Account Info

what are you using to dump your rom? i cxant find anything for my 83+ and cant find a program for dumping the rom w/ my usb cable

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 11:08 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
redsoxfan Account Info

VTI has a rom-dumper for the TI-83+ (I think it might be 2.5 as opposed to 3.0, not sure).

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 13:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Shawn Zhang Account Info

VTi ROM dump doesn't support USB :-(

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 19:23 GMT


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redsoxfan Account Info

Would it work if you used a USB to Serial adapter, or is there something fundamentally different about the cables?

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 16:10 GMT


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elfprince13 Account Info
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I don't know but its wroth a try. my guess it would work with a ilverlink but im not sure about a 84+SE USB cable (what i have)

Reply to this comment    17 April 2005, 21:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Shawn Zhang Account Info

Does rom dump not work on the USB link because the silverlink won't transmit a rom or because everybody is too lazy to make a program for it.

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 19:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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cause everyones too lazy

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 12:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
CajunLuke  Account Info
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TI-Connect Mac is great at screenshots, and if I remember correctly, that's what you have.

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 00:16 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Jake Griffin  Account Info
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TI Connect Mac? I didn't know there was such a thing! *Searches archives*

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 05:54 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Jake Griffin  Account Info
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OOPS!!! Misread that one...I thought you meant VTI Mac...nevermind!

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 05:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
CajunLuke  Account Info
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Sheesh... I wish.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 20:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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download the source and recompile it. vtisrc.zip in the Win directory. Its in C++ so Macs can handle it. Right now thats what I'm trying to do but we have dial-up so getting a decent C++ compiler is painful and I don't have the time to download one. If anyone has the time to do that though id be really grateful :p

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 16:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
CajunLuke  Account Info
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You won't find a beter compiler than XCode (free with Mac OS X).

And VTI probably uses lots of Windows-specific function calls, calls that won't work on a Mac without some work.

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 20:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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I was guessing that but I was going to try anyway. I know XCOde is realyy godd but we have projectbuilder and its broken and my Dad keeps forgettig to bring home the XCode installation disc

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 12:20 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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whoops, talk about typos. sorry

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 17:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
CajunLuke  Account Info
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If you have Project Builder, then you have Jaguar or earlier and can't run Xcode.

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 18:36 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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no, I have panther, its just that it was updated from jaguar, and nobody ever bothered replacing project builder.

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 19:36 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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yeah I have a mac, and it can take screenshots, jsut not during asm programs, loops, pauses, or in program menus.

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 14:42 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
redsoxfan Account Info

Really? I think the Windows version of TI-Connect can take screenshots in pauses and program menus.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 16:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Yes, you can use Ti-Connect, but I am not sure how much campatibility it is with ASM programs. It will work on all BASIC programs as will the TI-Graph Link software.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 17:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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it has no compatibility with Asm programs. I use both Mac and Windows versions. They don't work so good on pauses or loops though :-(

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 19:10 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Sam Kumar  Account Info
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that would be the ONLY downside!

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 11:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
redsoxfan Account Info

I've never had any trouble in menus.

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 13:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
CajunLuke  Account Info
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You can do it in menus and loops: see Timerize 68k for an example. I even use the animated screenshot feature to make a .mov of the program. (It's really choppy and bad, but kinda cool all the same.)

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 20:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
redsoxfan Account Info

Animated screenshot? Is there a way to get an animated screenshot of a TI-83+ without using VTI (because I have a lot of trouble with VTI on my computer, and anyway, it doesn't run basic programs, right? )?

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 13:53 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
CajunLuke  Account Info
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The way to do animated screenshots for ticalc.org is an animated GIF, and the only way I know how to do that is in Photoshop or Photoshop Elements.

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 20:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
CajunLuke  Account Info
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And, no, VTI runs BASIC programs.

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 18:37 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Ben Cherry  Account Info
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You mean ever since you retired you've been locked out of the system!? That's harsh... Maybe it's because they were upset you went and worked at calcgames... : )

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 03:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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CG came a month or so after. I actually asked to be removed from ticalc, butthat is beside the point..

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 07:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Ok one last thing on this then no more discussion:

I asked for them to remove me because if they didn't, I would still do the pending work which I had access to. I was literally addicted to ticalc. CG has been my "ticalc patch" :-)

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 07:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Jeremiah Walgren  Account Info
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And thus we see one of the more extreme cases of those who are dedicated to the calculator community come to an end...

...addict. :-P

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 00:36 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Hey, I'm still here! :-)

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 02:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Jake Griffin  Account Info
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Like he said..."addict."

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 03:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Hey I'm not hiding it!!!

...as long as I have had constant internet access, I can't remember a day when I didn't visit ticalc.org. There were times when I didn't have access so I would go to Circuit City to add all your pending files!

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 17:51 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Shawn Zhang Account Info

That's sad... Did the Circuit City employees ever kick you out?

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 19:05 GMT

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anykey  Account Info
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Manager: Sir, the store is closing.
Morgan: One more minute...the ticalc community needs me!
Manager: WTF?!
Sadly, this does not end happily.

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 01:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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It was only once. They didn't kick me out, but every five minutes came up to me and asked me if they could help me with anything. I politely said that I really liked this compter, but just wasn't sure yet.

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 03:01 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Nice! That's true dedication right there.

Reply to this comment    17 April 2005, 00:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Someone recognizes good work ethic! :-)

Reply to this comment    17 April 2005, 03:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Jeremiah Walgren  Account Info
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You know, he does have a point... Lots of people deny their problems or pretend they don't exist.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 21:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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What problem ;-)

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 07:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
burntfuse  Account Info
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If that was a real addiction, probably about a third of the people who visit this site would need serious therapy. ;-)

Reply to this comment    17 April 2005, 19:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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who says it isn't

Reply to this comment    18 April 2005, 17:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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|^|speaking from experience

Reply to this comment    18 April 2005, 17:16 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Timmc Account Info
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Maybe this could be done more efficiently from a programmers perspective:
- Screenshot your programs or they'll be deleted. (where applicable)
This not only gives an incentive to make screenshots but would remove any dormant programs. Yes, a lot of programs were submitted prior to screenshots existing but weren't those all screenshotted last summer?
Perhaps in the file upload form users should be required to submit a screenshot.

Anyway, I could probably do a few hundred screenshots.

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 04:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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The problem lies in the fact that many people have trouble making screenshots or do not know how.

Reply to this comment    12 April 2005, 07:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
calkfreak83  Account Info
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So gime 'em a link to the tutorial on it.. I've seen it somewhere around here.. It's how I learned!

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 12:58 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
redsoxfan Account Info

A "How To" Guide to Screenshotting v2.6 is located in the Informational Files directory of the archives.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 16:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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That actually makes me feel somewhat good! It actually needs to be updated a bit.

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 17:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Shawn Zhang Account Info

the rom dumping section under emulators needs to be updated saying that silverlinks can't get a rom

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 19:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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or USBs

Reply to this comment    13 April 2005, 19:11 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
chris w  Account Info

awwww....

i could probably do a few screen shots, but i might forget between now and summer

Reply to this comment    14 April 2005, 11:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
ssssmemyself Account Info
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I could have sworn USB and silverlink were the same.

Reply to this comment    16 April 2005, 01:42 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Shawn Zhang Account Info

they are... i dunno what he means by "or USBs"...

Reply to this comment    16 April 2005, 15:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
elfprince13 Account Info
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I take it you haven't seen the 84+SE. SilverLink plugs in to a standard I/O port. USB=TI-Connect cable. it plugs into a USB mini on a TI84+SE and (i think) the 89 titanium (don't hold me to that one)

Reply to this comment    16 April 2005, 23:35 GMT

Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Wingman  Account Info
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Yes...but how do we get involved? Who do we send the shots to?

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 01:17 GMT


Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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If the project is held this summer you will be informed if you visit tialc.org. I assume there would be some sort of news article.

Reply to this comment    15 April 2005, 03:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Would you participate in the 2005 Screenshot Project?
Anthony Loven  Account Info
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If someone can supply me with the *cough* ROM *cough* then I could lend a hand.

Reply to this comment    17 April 2005, 15:46 GMT

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