Survey posted 2005-04-11 19:10 by Jon.

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Survey idea by Morgan Davies.

I just wanted to say that the results of this could play a huge role if this is going to be done this year. I wouldn't be able to directly add the screenshots like in tha past, but could still organize the system if we all are willing to do this. It is mostly going to be 83 and 83+ stuff this year.

Thanks Jon!

I'd help but I only have TI-Connect which sux at screenshotting. I can't use VTI since i have a ti-84+se and nobody seems to know how to get a ROM from one...

Just google it. I found ones for several different calcs. The site had been contacted by TI saying the ROMs shouldn't be downloadable, but the zips were still there and the only thing that was missing was the extension on the files. You should be able to find some fairly easy. I have a TI-84 SE too and I really wanted VTI to work, I also asked my friend if he could dump his calc too, but he found a ROM online instead.

If you have a silver link, you can use TILP

No you can't. TiLP causes a link error when you try to do a rom dump with a silverlink (at least with my 83+)

what are you using to dump your rom? i cxant find anything for my 83+ and cant find a program for dumping the rom w/ my usb cable

VTI has a rom-dumper for the TI-83+ (I think it might be 2.5 as opposed to 3.0, not sure).

VTi ROM dump doesn't support USB :-(

Would it work if you used a USB to Serial adapter, or is there something fundamentally different about the cables?

I don't know but its wroth a try. my guess it would work with a ilverlink but im not sure about a 84+SE USB cable (what i have)

Does rom dump not work on the USB link because the silverlink won't transmit a rom or because everybody is too lazy to make a program for it.

cause everyones too lazy

TI-Connect Mac is great at screenshots, and if I remember correctly, that's what you have.

TI Connect Mac? I didn't know there was such a thing! *Searches archives*

OOPS!!! Misread that one...I thought you meant VTI Mac...nevermind!

Sheesh... I wish.

download the source and recompile it. vtisrc.zip in the Win directory. Its in C++ so Macs can handle it. Right now thats what I'm trying to do but we have dial-up so getting a decent C++ compiler is painful and I don't have the time to download one. If anyone has the time to do that though id be really grateful :p

You won't find a beter compiler than XCode (free with Mac OS X).

And VTI probably uses lots of Windows-specific function calls, calls that won't work on a Mac without some work.

I was guessing that but I was going to try anyway. I know XCOde is realyy godd but we have projectbuilder and its broken and my Dad keeps forgettig to bring home the XCode installation disc

whoops, talk about typos. sorry

If you have Project Builder, then you have Jaguar or earlier and can't run Xcode.

no, I have panther, its just that it was updated from jaguar, and nobody ever bothered replacing project builder.

yeah I have a mac, and it can take screenshots, jsut not during asm programs, loops, pauses, or in program menus.

Really? I think the Windows version of TI-Connect can take screenshots in pauses and program menus.

Yes, you can use Ti-Connect, but I am not sure how much campatibility it is with ASM programs. It will work on all BASIC programs as will the TI-Graph Link software.

it has no compatibility with Asm programs. I use both Mac and Windows versions. They don't work so good on pauses or loops though :-(

that would be the ONLY downside!

I've never had any trouble in menus.

You can do it in menus and loops: see Timerize 68k for an example. I even use the animated screenshot feature to make a .mov of the program. (It's really choppy and bad, but kinda cool all the same.)

Animated screenshot? Is there a way to get an animated screenshot of a TI-83+ without using VTI (because I have a lot of trouble with VTI on my computer, and anyway, it doesn't run basic programs, right? )?

The way to do animated screenshots for ticalc.org is an animated GIF, and the only way I know how to do that is in Photoshop or Photoshop Elements.

And, no, VTI runs BASIC programs.

You mean ever since you retired you've been locked out of the system!? That's harsh... Maybe it's because they were upset you went and worked at calcgames... : )

CG came a month or so after. I actually asked to be removed from ticalc, butthat is beside the point..

Ok one last thing on this then no more discussion:

I asked for them to remove me because if they didn't, I would still do the pending work which I had access to. I was literally addicted to ticalc. CG has been my "ticalc patch" :-)

And thus we see one of the more extreme cases of those who are dedicated to the calculator community come to an end...

...addict. :-P

Hey, I'm still here! :-)

Like he said..."addict."

Hey I'm not hiding it!!!

...as long as I have had constant internet access, I can't remember a day when I didn't visit ticalc.org. There were times when I didn't have access so I would go to Circuit City to add all your pending files!

That's sad... Did the Circuit City employees ever kick you out?

Manager: Sir, the store is closing.
Morgan: One more minute...the ticalc community needs me!
Manager: WTF?!
Sadly, this does not end happily.

It was only once. They didn't kick me out, but every five minutes came up to me and asked me if they could help me with anything. I politely said that I really liked this compter, but just wasn't sure yet.

Nice! That's true dedication right there.

Someone recognizes good work ethic! :-)

You know, he does have a point... Lots of people deny their problems or pretend they don't exist.

What problem ;-)

If that was a real addiction, probably about a third of the people who visit this site would need serious therapy. ;-)

who says it isn't

|^|speaking from experience

Maybe this could be done more efficiently from a programmers perspective:
- Screenshot your programs or they'll be deleted. (where applicable)
This not only gives an incentive to make screenshots but would remove any dormant programs. Yes, a lot of programs were submitted prior to screenshots existing but weren't those all screenshotted last summer?
Perhaps in the file upload form users should be required to submit a screenshot.

Anyway, I could probably do a few hundred screenshots.

The problem lies in the fact that many people have trouble making screenshots or do not know how.

So gime 'em a link to the tutorial on it.. I've seen it somewhere around here.. It's how I learned!

A "How To" Guide to Screenshotting v2.6 is located in the Informational Files directory of the archives.

That actually makes me feel somewhat good! It actually needs to be updated a bit.

the rom dumping section under emulators needs to be updated saying that silverlinks can't get a rom

or USBs

awwww....

i could probably do a few screen shots, but i might forget between now and summer

I could have sworn USB and silverlink were the same.

they are... i dunno what he means by "or USBs"...

I take it you haven't seen the 84+SE. SilverLink plugs in to a standard I/O port. USB=TI-Connect cable. it plugs into a USB mini on a TI84+SE and (i think) the 89 titanium (don't hold me to that one)

Yes...but how do we get involved? Who do we send the shots to?

If the project is held this summer you will be informed if you visit tialc.org. I assume there would be some sort of news article.

If someone can supply me with the *cough* ROM *cough* then I could lend a hand.