Survey posted 2005-04-11 19:10 by Jon.

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YES@@!!
I'll be happy to help in the Ti83 plus category.

just thinking about it gives me a headache...there's so many programs and so many that are more or less the same things...

Don't think about it like that or else it'll never get done. Think about 40 guys working together on the project striving to get as far as they can.

Here's my screenshotting routine:
- Open IE, goto zipped program listing, Shift+Click each white folder icon, minimise new window(loop this step until all white folder icon links are open OR until max window has reached limit)
- restore windows, click .zip link, rename to program-ID from URL when saving to "calctype" folder
- extract all zips to folders using zip-names
- run VTI, set rom
- open program, goto good section of program, save screenshot in folder with program with name of folder (eg: 105335-1.bmp 105335-2.bmp),revert to saved state (loop until all done)
- run IrfanView batch, load all BMP files from directories, save as GIF in new directory, zip GIFs, send to ticalc.org
It's a simple process, and a few things can be changed to make it longer. =P

Tabbed browsing might be slightly more efficient than having a zillion browser windows open.

Go Mozilla Firefox!!

yeeehaahhh!! Or even better: Safari since windows sux, but then you can get Firefox for Mac and Linux too so I guess its not that bad...but Safari's better

You Mac fanatics really bug me... Mac's may be like 5 times as fast as PCs, but nobody needs to brag about it. Also, everybody knows that windows sux, so they use linux.

Im not a mac fanatic, I just hate windows, and I prefer Mac to linux. they're both Unix based anyway so it doesn't really matter when it comes to using a command promprt. i just like Macs user interface better

Actually, I have several friends that refuse to use any OS but Windows. Another kid I know was so Winows-centric he asked me if Macs and Linux ran DOS.

And not only are Macs faster (to a certain extent; the point is debatable), Mac OS X is the only operating system where each successive release is perceptibly faster than the previous one.

Mac OS follows Fitt's Law far better than Windows ever dreamed of.

Multitasking works better. (Which is a main reason it's faster.)

And I've never tried Linux, so I make no comments thereon.

that's so pathetic it makes me want to vomit. People are so clueless. <off topic>Mac Fans check out the Mac OS X section on apple.com, 2 weeks till OSX10.4 tiger coms out</off topic>

because the G5 has 64-bit capacity and it actually works, its undoubtably the fastest processor available. All 64-bit PC processors don't wwork because WinXP isn't written to work with 64-bit technology.

clarification: someone asking if Linux and Mac can run DOS is pathetic

It's especially annoying that they think "Linux" is a type of computer like a Mac or PC...

Oh well... We do our best, but what can you do about people like that.

I've read of instances where certain people simply can't grasp the fact that other OSes like Mac OS and Linux run entirely independent of Windows.

A couple of times when I said my computer ran Linux, I was asked immediately afterwards by family members "what Windows I have." Fortunately, it only took them a couple of seconds to realize that Linux is entirely different from Windows.

WOW!!! I just learned that my aunt helped in programming Linux.. thats so cool :-D!

--My Aunt Helped In Programming Linux

my dad knows about 12 different programming languages, but I don't think he ever got to work on designing an operating system

Hopefully, Windows won't spread to this point in the future:

Student A: I just got a new TI-<insert new graphic calc model here>
Student B: What Windows does it run?
Student A: It doesn't Windows, it runs AMS <or whatever>
Student B: Huh...???

yea, it already has... Anyway, Windows is written in COBOL, which has a) the simplicity of basic, and b) the speed of assembly!

I believe you have it backwards. COBOL has the simplicity of programming in hexadecimal and the speed of a dessicated slug. Example: a period is the statement terminator. This was chosen to be similar to English. One of my friends' dad writes COBOL for Expediters, Inc. He wears out keyboards on a regular basis, and prefers Omnikey.

Random quote from http://www.csis.ul.ie/COBOL/ Course/COBOLIntro.htm#part1: (in the link above)
"... the cost of replacing COBOL code has been estimated at approximately twenty five dollars ($25) per line of code."

I guess I didn't notice that you were being facetious.

I've never heard of Fitt's Law, but have you heard of Gates' Law?

"Every 18 months, the speed of software halves."

And also Slimey's Corollary:

"As the speed of software halves, its size (both in-core and on-disk) doubles. Ditto to the proprietary binary data files."

in my programing class we run off a server and now runn off dell thin clients but we use to have a I-mac (preSunflower) that ran the PC server faster than the thin clients.

Firefox sux! IE 6.0 forever!

Yeah firefox has pb rendering many sites I visit, such as Epic Programming Studios so I use IE. Just be careful to security holes though...

I've had more rendering problems in IE than anywhere else. IE Mac renders Ticalc.org's blue theme as purple. Safari, Firefox, Camino, IE Windows, etc. render the blue.

*groan* I said IE 6.0 forever, not IE 5.5 mac!

Huh...it works fine for EPS with me.

Ehm, you forgot the <flamebait> tags...

Have fun with popups and ten thousand windows.

Have fun with 5-min load times and screwed up text everywhere.

Safari is far faster than IE ever dreamed of.

safari 4evr

pop-ups are fun!

<flamebait>
list of decent operating systems:
1. WindowsXP
2. Linux
3. MS-DOS
4. TI-OS 1.13

<flamebait>
the only two of those that are decent are Linux and Ti-03 1.13. Any Microsoft OS sux. Unix based OSs 4ever
</flamebait>

The only decent OS are the ones that have a Blue Screen Of Death! Go Win3.1!

I crashed my computer clicking pop-ups. :^)

I crashed a school mac by browsing ticalc.org. My school has macs running 533MHz iMacs with 160MB RAM, and my PC with a 350MHz Pentium II and 64 MB RAM still runs faster.

G4s and G5s rock.

No... Supercomputers rule!

yeah but unfortunately I don't have access to one

GASP! Don't tell me that you live in the USA or else I'll have to report you as *maybe* a child that has been left behind! But, you're probably a 30 year old living in his basement and eatting spam to survive...

I'm not all "hooray for IE" because I have tried many other browsers (inc: netscape7/8 mozilla firefox maxthorn). The tabbed browsing method proved to have a bigger load on system resources and in many causes inefficient since after 10 or so tabs they'd drop into a dropdown menu where with IE you can just make the startbar bigger for tabs. Which would lead one to believe that if MS has IE in their OS as an integral application then you'd think Task Buttons "are" this so called "tabbed browsing".
Enough flame wars, lets just agree that all browsers have their strong points and weak points with different ones suiting different needs.

Why have 10 tabs? All you need is two: slashdot.org and ticalc.org :^)
Personally, I think IE's security holes more than make up for any of it's strong spots.
Besides, when IE crashes, it brings down the WHOLE computer, because MS decided to tie it into the OS!
FireFox is the future!!!!

I've never had IE bring down the computer by crashing. It's also never crashed whilst I had over 50 IE windows open getting programs from ticalc.org. Sure, I could just use some spidering software but that takes effort. This is just clicking. Keep it simple =)
I know IE isn't compliant in every aspect of w3 doctypes but you can say the same thing about websites. A good website requires a good browser, for everything else there's IE.

No... Firefox has just as many security problems, its just that nobody's bothered exploiting them because they'd probably only get like 3 or 4 victims.

I once did a test (with Windows ME), and using tabbed browsing consumed far less GDI resources than multiple IE windows.

Of course, since I'm using Linux now, that doesn't matter anymore anyway.

If you use linux, how are you gonna play all those great PC games that don't work on any non-crappy OS?

There is always the possibility of dual booting, meaning having both windows and linux on the same computer.