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TI-83+/84+ SE
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82
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52.6%
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TI-86
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59
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37.8%
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No opinion
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15
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9.6%
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Re: Which z80 calculator is the most advanced? Why?
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DWedit
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Note that the TI83+SE has twice as much RAM (yes, ram) as the TI86. (256k vs 96k)
Just none of the extra 224k of ram is accessable to users.
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10 February 2004, 07:03 GMT
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Re: Re: Which z80 calculator is the most advanced? Why?
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Memwaster
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I've written this before, but i will write it again for its relevence.
The TI83+SE and the TI86, as far as hardware is concerned, are very similar.
The TI86 has a larger screen (128x64 rather that 96x64), and it is mapped to memory. This is good for games, as grayscale is practical. They both have 128k of RAM.
The TI86 has a 256k ROM, whereas the OS that the TI83+SE has takes up 256k, plus 192k for "future OS use". In addition, the TI83+SE has 1.5Mb of user-accessable Flash memory.
The TI83+SE has inbuild quartz crystals that can be used to power an accurate stopwatch and may also have other unexploited uses. It also has "link assist", that speeds up linking.
Finally the CPU in the TI83+SE is alot faster than the TI86. (15Mhz vs 6Mhz).
As far as the inbuild OS capability is concerned, the TI86 kicks ass. Sure, it may not have the menus that some people "know and love", but I won't bring that up.
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10 February 2004, 13:03 GMT
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Re: Re: Which z80 calculator is the most advanced? Why?
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Memwaster
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The advantages the TI83+SE has are apps, and very large user-contributed files (332kb in LISTING vs 156kb in LISTING on the 86). Also, TI has released an SDK for the 83+ that is 600-800pages long. Compared to the 8 web pages that there are about the TI86, this is a magor plus for programmers.
The adventages of the TI86 are more functionality in the OS, and the fact that most ASM programs do not require a shell.
My conclusion: As far as mathematics is concerned, if there is a possibility that your calculator will be reset, a TI86 is the best bet.
If, however, your calculator will not have the archive cleared (which contains all those useful apps eg. symbloic), get a TI83+SE.
If you plan to do z80 programming, the TI83+SE is better, as there is alot more unexploered terrain.
That's my $AU0.20
PS. I am working on a new OS for the TI83+ and TI83+SE that will use all that extra RAM..... If it has enough popularity, I may design an 86-type shell for it....
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10 February 2004, 13:04 GMT
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Re: Which z80 calculator is the most advanced? Why?
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chemoautotroph
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Although I love the idea of a USB port on the 84, the 86 has my favorite OS... which in my mind takes precedence.
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10 February 2004, 17:53 GMT
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Re: Which z80 calculator is the most advanced? Why?
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Jiaqi Wu
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I think the TI-86 is the best because of many reasons.
I like the menu system on the TI-86 a lot better than the full screen menu on the TI-83+. It works much better for RPG style games and stuff and you can see what you are doing with them.
I also like the fact that the TI-86 has a huge chunk of RAM instead of a little RAM and some flash ROM. I think it is stupid to be able to use the flash ROM for whatever you want because that just wares it out very quickly and you have to keep doing that garbage collect thing. It should only be available for flash applications. If people care about the crashing business so much just do what I do. Make a backup of all the variables on the calculator onto the computer every once in a while. And if you think about it, having one thing of storage is more efficient when it comes to archiving and unarchiving and that business that shell automatically do so they can run programs.
TI-86 asm programs are great because none of them require some special shell with some weird interface. People are able to use whatever they want.
I like also the fact that the TI-86 can store pictures and strings in whatever variable they want instead of using a preset one.
I also like the high screen resolution and grey scale quality of the TI-86. I checked out Phoenix III on the TI-83plus and it was terrible because the scores were not displayed on the screen because it is too small and the gray scale was really flickery.
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10 February 2004, 22:28 GMT
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