Your idea is very good and opinionated. It has it's positives and negatives. For me however I would opt for an alliance. Even with my knowledge of ti 83 programing i sometimes need help and need someone else to make routines smaller or to save memory. I think a group of people would reduce the amount of bugs in programs for every type of calculator. All in all, Alliance seems to be a better concept.

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You don't need an Alliance to help you optimize your code. Or figure out a problem. Join the mailing list (in your case Assembly-83). I'm not sure what its like on there but the 86 people are very nice. Ever since I've been on it they've helped me and a bunch of other people. Wether it was a routine for something or just a question you'd usually get 4 or 5 responses sometimes more.

is anybody interested in hacking the ti-73 to make a shell? i have quite a bit of info on it, but i really can't do much hacking without actually having a ti-73. if we could get a bunch of people working together on it, we might be able to create an "ultimate os" and avoid the shell wars going on with the other ti calculators.

Why would you want to create a shell for the 73 if you don't even have a 73? And why the 73 to begin with?

because it hasn't been done yet.

A two headed cow-dog hasn't been made either(as far as I know), but that doesn't mean one should be made.

Daladran

i'm working on that too.

Well, a two headed DOGCOW has been spotted more then once... not too sure about a cow-dog, though...

Why avoid shell wars? Why not make all the shells work on the same calc? I've already done it with ZShell 4.0, Usgard, PhatOS, and Rigel, on the 85.

You can find Summit BETA 3 (The latest version of my shell switcher) here on ticalc. Granted, it has bugs, but it works.

on the ti-73, each shell would take up one application space in the ROM. there are only 4 application spaces. one is taken up by the link application, and another is taken up by the cbl/cbr application, leaving 2.(3 if you delete the cbl/cbr application). it is highly unlikely that shell wars will happen, though. there aren't very many people that are interested in a shell for the 73.

Won't TI try to get middle school teachers to buy 73's? Then people can play games during class in middle school too :)

You can already do that with virtually all the TI-8x and 92(+). Why would you need a TI-73 to do it?

This is an excellent idea. It would not only lessen the chances of problems within your calc, It would also increase the benifits of programs through shared ideas.

An alliance should be put together to make programs for the TI-89/TI-92 plus. This is because they're faster calculators and they have a lot more memory than the rest of them. These two calculators could have programs on them that far exceed any of the other programs of the rest of the TI-8x series. These two calculators are where the really programs should be.

do you by chance own a TI-89 or 92? ^_^. If you have a 89, i must complement you. I have searched through 10 of the closest Staples and found one thirty miles away who still has two left. No doubt i had them transfer it to my local Staples! I am not worrying about waiting for a more robust version of ROM because we all know the magic word here : FLASH

I find it insulting that anyone could be so bullheaded. Are you implying that all programers should screw the TI-8x series, and spend all of their time and effort on the 89 and 92? I would be willing to bet that no more than 2% of all TI graphing calculator sales are for the 89 or 92, and possibly even less.

Making programs only for the TI-89 and TI-92+ is a dumb idea...Let's say the alliance did that, most people own a TI-8x not a TI-89 or TI-92+ anyway so this whole thing would be a waste of time and a miserable failure. It won't be too long before TI-89 and TI-92+ are obsolete. Then what? Keep making programs for a calculator which only ONE of them exists in the world and you have that ONE? It should be for TI-8x and TI-9x.

Rye

An idea would be to start up some kind of page where everybody contributes ideas to a game. A person who wants to write a game gives the basic idea and what should be included with it. This is then shown to everybody who can then comment on the layout and basics. Once this has been 'fine tuned' the code can be produced. At this stage people have an idea of what the program involves and can help develop parts of the code. For example people can develop routines which handle certain aspects of the game (these would have to be develpoed in such a way that many can be combinbed into one program). This would enable the best routines to be selected for certain tasks. Once this has been done then all of the individual parts can be combined into one final program which can be tested. The main aim of this is, at the very least to get people together in the basic design of a program, to pool ideas together and overcome the spread in quality of games that people complain about.

Actually, something like this was tried a little while ago (Ti-Files' Zelda BBS), but I think due to lack of interest it was left behind. A great idea nonetheless, and I'd like to se it reinstated or at least something similar appear once again.

This idea is great.
A lot of persons think like me. I need it because i'm a young programmer on the Fargo but i've got some capacity and a lot of idea.
So WHEN THE TPA BEGIN ?

this hole article sucks
having to register a program mean having to send the programer money which i believe that this is a bad idea

though mabey a group of people who ask each other for there input would be good it might help to get around "programers block"