Speaking of 68k Calculators, I am thinking of puchasing one...but I have a question.
Are all TI-89 calculators sold today Hardware 2.00 (HW 2) ?

yep

If you don't get one second-hand

Buy it at calc.org- they have REALLY good prices, I bought my 89 three years ago from Staples, but I wish the calc.org store had been up then because they are really competitively priced. My friend bought an 89 from them a couple months ago and he was really pleased.

Buy one at www.electronicprods.com for:
TI-89: $128.75
V200: $168.00

You need to know where to search. One of my friends got a TI-89 for $70 and a TI-83 Plus Silver Edition for $50 of eBay.

Something like a TI calculator I would only buy newv (not on eBay). BTW, TI's suck, buy a Casio ClassPad300... same capabilities as the TI-89, but with a touch screen and a lot of other cool features. I wish I had ~$150

Umm, do you realize what you said? "TI's suck". If that is not calling for a flame war, I really don't know what is.

-W-

Define 'suck'.

About 50000 people are waiting in line to correct you.

Make that 50001.

Hmm, thanks for your input everybody.

Well, new. Documented, stable prices.

I bought my TI-89 at Best Buy for $125 on sale..

circuit city:
89:$139.99 US no shipping
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How long until there is a port for the TI-83+???
Those of us who don't have higher end calcs can't wait!

<off topic>What about a bootable VTI flopy disk? Then we could take PedroM on PC everywhere!</off topic>

There is now a Porting PedroM post in the Misc. Program Ideas Section.

its impossible... its a different assembly language.

And besides, has a way to send an unsigned OS update to a TI-83+ been found yet?

I think I found out how to send an ubnsigned OS to the TI-83+.

What you do is you loadthe intel hex file into the initial release of the Flash Debugger (it supports loading unsigned OS's), then you save the state, restore it in the Third release of the aforementioned Flash Debugger (which supports linking to a calc), and transfer the os (using an OS transfer function) to the calc.

Unfortunately, this means that you have to write up TI's linking protocol and stick it on the OS.

If anyone has the (no romcalls) linking protocol for the TI-83+, please email it to me.

I am currently working on an OS for the TI-83+, but have not yet sent it to my calc (There is no routine to remove the OS :)

Sorry, that won't work. This part:
>Unfortunately, this means that you have to write up TI's linking protocol and stick it on the OS.
is the real problem. You can't just overwrite the OS, there are protections against it. The PC-side software used to send it is completely irrelevant.

PS: If you don't understand this, read the TIB Receiver readme. The protection system is practically the same on the TI-83+ as on the TI-89/92+/V200. The difference is that the hacks that work on the TI-89/92+ (and probably V200 soon) do NOT work on the TI-83+ because the CPU is not the same. The Z80 makes it much harder to crash a flash unprotecting routine than the 68k.

Maybe because those who wrote the 83+ OS are better than those who wrote the OS of the 89. :)

I think Michael Vincent has written a routine to do just that. Look at the second post by him on the url.(I'm still learning asm - so sorry if I'm wrong)

Well, yes.

There is a way to send an unsigned OS to the 83+.

There is also a way to unlock and then write/erase/read all areas of flash with a RAM program. I'm still debating what to do with that though.

TIB receiver has rewritten the ti link protocol for receiving an OS (That's why it works).