w00t! 4th Post!

C00l, i was wondering what was wrong with the server...
Also, it was about time there was some new news!

OK Kerm... I was almost not pissed at you anymore when you released the schematic.

Except it's a fake. It WON'T WORK.

so why is it that whenever you're criticized, you just laugh and ignore it?

dammit man, respond to our comments! you aren't helping to make yourself look any better!

It does work, and today I have uploaded the beta of a mouse driver. So,... If anyone feels like beta-testing the mouse driver, send me an email and i'll give you the 411.

WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO USE A MOUSE ON SOMETHING WITH A SCREEN THAT IS BARELY BIGGER THAN 2 QUARTERS???????????????? IT IS COMPLETELY FREAKING POINTSLESS!!

YOU AND THE FAKE NO_ONE HAVE JUST ABOUT COMPLETELY PISSED ME OFF!!! STOP WORKING ON THE STUPID MOUSE, AND TRY WORKING ON DOORS XP!!!(that is, if it even exist)

So where can you use this mouse, on the normal home screen? Where, what the hell is the FREAKING POINT?????!!!!!!

pointless ! HAHA! btw, kerm, wheretf (wtf) is the driver?

Yeah, we'd like to see a direct link...

Here it is:

http://www.ticalc.org/ archives/files/fileinfo/ 256/25694.html

without the spaces, or click Web Page ^^above^^.

My comment from http://www.ticalc.org/ archives/news/ articles/7/74/74074.html?p=3

>>>>>>>

Still, some things aren't right:

; Funny code starts
MOVE_X:
ld a,d
cp 16d
jp m,MOUSE_LEFT ; what the f...?
jp MOUSE_RIGHT
MOVE_Y:
ld a,d
cp ; Yeah........
MOUSE_LEFT:
call MOUSE_PUTMSE
ld a,(mse_x)
dec a
; Rest of code

And I haven't even started searching...
It looks cute though. Aren't these...

; More code
SENDBYTE:
ld a,11d
ld (ASM_IND_VALUE),a
ld a,b
call _IO_EXEC
ret
RECBYTE:
ld a,22d
ld (ASM_IND_VALUE),a
call _IO_EXEC
ret
; End of more code

...the internal linking routines provided by Ti? Hardly usefull for sending a byte from one calc to another, so how and why should a PS/2 mouse understand the Ti protocol?

Anyway, who am I to criticize? I havent actually tested it...

Then again, the calc is sending the signal to the hub, which, I believe, would then convert the signal into one that the mouse could understand.

Yes, I had forgotten that. The almighty hub... which doesn't exist...
Have you got any idea how difficult it is to send a byte from one calc to another without using these standard routines? Then you can imagine how difficult it must be to make a microcontroller understand that crappy Ti protocol. It's a hell of a job, and no offence, but Kerm isn't going to be able to do it.

Yes, I do know how unreliable the link routine is. But, there IS a hub. The schematics are at http://www.ticalc.org/
archives/files/fileinfo
/256/25693.html without spaces.

I SAID HUB! Not 3 pieces of wire. That doesn't do anything.

So still: a mouse doesn't understand the Ti protocol.

I really like the idea, if TI had icons, I would be in heaven...
:]

A mouse would make drawing a LOT easier, and playing shooter games. A mouse would be quite cool.

Check it out! Now it's possible!

Give me a link. I can't find one which has the software...

It's
http://www.ticalc.org/ archives/files/ fileinfo/256/25694.html
without the spaces or click the link above.

um, where would you GET the mouse? didn't have time to look at the source thourogly (lol, I'm not going to fix that spelling, because it so SOOOOO bad!)

You can use any old regular PS/2 mouse.

Several forums back you told us that we would see Doors XP in the end of september, guess what, its NOVEMBER FREAKING FIFTH!!!! Then you said we would see screen shots by the end of SEPTEMBER! Where the fuck is all this stuff! quit making it up if you aren't gonna back it up!

But, think of how big a mouse is. If you were anywhere where you actualy had a mouse, you should just use a laptop.
BLAH! to Kerm Martian!

5 quarters:
fuor in a square, halve the other one, put it in the remaining space.
FYI: Apple Desktop Bus would be perfect for TI calc input devices. It is all on one data line, and only needs one cord.

OMG are you serious?!? <drum roll>5 QUARTERS?!?</drum roll> that's HUGE!!!

I like the good old ADB! My laptop has it, and it works great!

I still think a mouse is stupid, maybe if he made a driver for a USB printer, that would be cool! but a FREAKING MOUSE?!?!?

Yes, mouse is dumb!

Yes, we need SOUND!
Go to www.calc83plus.tk (my site, click 'web site' link above) and see the almighty Mr T shrunk down to TI-83 Plus size!

Sound is a good, however unoriginal idea, as it can already have sound with the real playre program, and a cell phone head set

Semi-unoriginal idea- I am knocking out a file that should hopefully incorporate some sound routines for use in games- not a 'Sound Player' And real sound too- playing wav files is not too tricky!

Being able to put it in games would be really cool!

Yes, there is already one, Iceclimb, which has sound. But, sound in an action game would be hard (the best I understand, the calc cannot do anything while the sound is playing). But, everyone (including no_one) get working on it, and we'll have Super Mario SOUND EDITION in a few months.

we should draw straws for:

- who gets to do the hardware
- who gets to to the software
- etc.

My sound system should be able to play WHILST other stuff is processing! How it will work is that the sound is stored as a series of bytes and that there will be a routine that plays it a byte at a time. (Or less). So in the main program loop, all you would need to do would be to 'call playbyte' or something and it would play a little bit of the sound.
You might get an overtone or a choppy sound. I'm still working on it.
However, I was focusing more on RealSound- wav files, basically. I have to play each byte twice otherwise the sound is too fast! This could be useful for backing sounds. The harshness of the sound quality means that some sounds work quite well (gunshots and some speech, or even a guitar) but softer noises like gentle music sound dreadful. However, the sound could be put into a FPS (3d shooter). Have a look at my demo (check out the web link above). After background wav files, I might go on to FM synthesis-type sounds (with all the grace of a mobile phone ring tone). However, someone should try and devise a 'sound smoothing' circuit and amplifier to improve the sound quality!

w0w, nice job. Try adding sound to someting simple (Stigma or the like), and upload it to ticalc.

Nice idea...
I'd rather have the routines done though first.
I don't have too much time to work on them though, so it could be a while.

Oh, I'll draw the straw for software!

Playing WAV files is quite simple:
I use a program called wav2db. This converts the sound to a string of .db statements, like:
.db FFh,0Ch,81h,...
Imagime a wav file with a bit like this:
\_/-\_/
This would be turned to binary like:
00111000
or something.
All you need to do is output it through the link port.
So:
ld hl,(SoundPos)
ld a,(hl)
bit 7,a
cp 0
call z,PortLow
call nz,PortHigh
bit 6,a
cp 0....
So every bit sets the port high/low. Cunning, eh? Well, look at my demo to see it in action.

but how would you _play_ the sound? Would you need headphones that plug into the link port?

Use a cell phone headset, it should work.

Yeah, but would probably only give mono sound.
Maplin Electronics (UK) sell a 2.5mm stereo jack to 3.5mm stereo jack adapter that should also do the business. However, if you are using something with a low impedence (like big headphones or something) don't plug them in before you are in MirageOS or the sound program itself- otherwise the OS detects them and tries to communicate, blocking the device up! I plug my calc into an adapter then into my HI-FI's AUX channel. It saves on batteries...

In the USA, Radio Shack sells a little gizmo which works great for 1.99 USD.

uh...
no, it doesn't.
I tried it. and your mouse driver DOESN'T EXIST.
not on TICalc, not on YOUR SITE, not ANYWHERE.
fuck off, Kerm.

It was released on TICalc on Friday

GO THE FUCK AWAY, NO ONE LIKES YOU, NOT EVEN THE FAKE NO ONE, YOU HAVE PISSED ME OFF SO FREAKING ROYALLY!!!!!!

WTF WOULD YOU NEED A MOUSE, MAKE SOMETHING USEFUL, LIKE A PRINTER DRIVER!!!!!

You know those big calcs that have a built-in printer? They are probably controlled serially by the CPU. It would probably not be too hard to open one up and connect it through the link port on the 83+. Even cooler would be one of those naff GameBoy printers! Surely you could connect one up...

Another good idea, the Game boy printer, my bother had one of those, until he broke it.

Or the GameBoy camera! Um no... dithering would be difficult... Maybe it could save straight to PICs?

I don't have a gameboy, but isn't the screen they take pics for BIGGER and with MORE PIXELS than that of a calc (even the V200)? How would you use pics of different sizes? Scale them or crop them? I don't know, but I don't think it'll work.

Why have you tried it? It's obviously fake...

Kerm, you are so f*cking annoying. If you stop talking about DoorsXP and your crap mouse driver, I agree to go away. Forever.

who the F*** are you? who are YOU to say someone is annoying? (even if they are) Is this some lame attempt to gain support by acting like you agree with something other people believe? btw...What is your real ticalc.org name?

he's some STUPID MORON copying me. :(

Lets refer to the fake no one as FUCK FACE, and Kerm as COCKLESS BASTARD!

Okay, this post is a little harsh and inappropiate, but what the hey..

Uh, yeah. That WOULD work, except you ARE KERM. so DIE.

Notice how he hasn't denied this statement in 4 days. Proof that he, Kermit Martian (what a wierd ass name), is the fake no_one, fake "ac", and to top it off, the fake Kerm Martia"i"n!

FUCK AWAY KERM!

how exactly do you f*ck someone away?
or are you saying "f*ck away, Kerm! f*ck away!" like "fire away"??
:-?

I forgot to put Go in front of it...

CALL FOR BETA TESTERS:
Check out http://www.ticalc.org /archives/files/fileinfo /256/25693.html , make a TICI hub as suggested, and then go to http://www.ticalc.org/ archives/files/fileinfo /256/25694.html and load this to your calculator. Connect a PS/2 mouse, run the program, and then email me at Kerm_Martian@yahoo.com with comments!
CALL FOR BETA TESTERS:

YOU ARE SO FUCKING ANNOYING, GO AWAY, AND WORK ON DOORSXP, THAT IS, IF IT EVEN EXIST!

NO ONE WANTS TO BUILD ONE, ON ACCOUNT OF IT DOESN'T WORK, which is why you offer to let them use it, cause no one will build it, and waste money, and find out that it wont work!

Congratulations. That's the first time I've ever seen anyone successfully use the phrase "on account of".

Thanks!

YOU FUCKING FOOL!!! THE ELETRICAL ENGINEER AT MY COLLAGE SAID IT FUCKING WOULD WORK AS LONG AS YOU HAD THE FUCKING PROPER DRVIERS!

ENOUGH ALREADY WITH THE SHOUTING SWEARS! YOU *SS!
w00t!

and guess what? the driver iS FAAAAKKKEEEEE!!!!
the compiled program is NOT the output of the source! the output of the SOURCE is a bunch of ERRORS!!!

wtf are you talking about?
Of course it's the compilation of the source!!!
What else would it be?????

You really should try compiling it first before making claims like that ...

I did. And it wouldn't compile.

OK. And since it doesn't compile, you should POlITELY ask Kerm how he got it to compile.

How about, you send various folks the TICI hub, the compiled software, and they will tell us if it works (or if it even arrives in their mailbox).

BTW: If anyone tries to get him to mail a hub, you might want to have the postal inspector check out the contents of the box first. :)

Who the 7734 wants a mouse for a fricken calculator?
Nobody (except for you) wants a crappy mouse that doesn't even WORK. So give it up.

AND NOW, TO TOP IT ALL, A FAKE lord_nightrose! THESE FRAUDS ARE RUINING THE MESSAGE BOARDS! GO AWAY! NOW!

I am seriously getting pissed off. GO TO 4377 YOU F4607!

This has got to be the same person behind _no_one_2000_` ...

What happened to your message board? I saw it in the last news item, but when i went there it said "User doesn't exist."

The site had a bunch of horrible nastiness. I guess someone shut it down. Thank g00d!ness.

I closed it down because I think someone put inappropriate material on it. I didn't open it, so I don't know for sure, but the links looked pretty suspicious...

um.............. *kerm*, i think they closed it! :)

no, I was the one who closed it

DUDE. YOU'RE SO FULL OF IT.
You said 'the links looked suspicious.'
I saw the page. There were no LINKS. There were IMAGES, embedded IN the POSTS. The ONLY WAY you would have known that there was ANYTHING inappropriate would be if you LOOKED at it.

Therefore, you're either lying about not looking at it (which I doubt), or they deleted it before you saw it.

And I KNOW for a FACT that Boards2GO closed you down. I e-mailed them to FIND OUT.

you dumbass.

Full of IT???
Missing two letters there, namely an S and an H.

eeeeeeeeeeexactly.

What's all this about a mouse driver (for calculator??) Are you making one or something?

don't listen to him he's lying :(>

I can tell you all don't like Kerm very much....how come?

From their comments (I haven't been around for a while, so I might be wrong) it would seem that they're pissed off that Kerm keeps talking about Doors XP and a mouse driver but they don't work/exist.

All of this over some "shell" that Kerm claims to be developing. He wouldn't be the first to so. Makes me glad to deal with 86s and 89s instead of 83s. No one, not "no_one_" or whatever, seems to do false advertising for 89 or 86 programs like this Kerm is doing for 83 progs.

The reason why everyone is p*ssed off at Kerm is just that. no one (not even the fake no_one) likes false advertizing.

So SHUT UP KERM and _NO_ONE (the fake one).

AND "ac"!

lol, ac is against frauds now too :)

I would think that by now EVERYONE is against the frauds (except for maybe the frauds themselves ....)

Have you been keeping up-to-date with the last post? Sure doesn't look like it. Just go over there and on the first page, spanning for over half of that page is insults to Kerm. Read it and get so angry that you want to kill both Kerm and _no_one`, but more _no_one`.

_no_one`, or _no_one_`, but no no_one_ !

It's too confusing!

I know! It was all nice until that #$@$@#$@#$@#$@#$#@ came in!

wtf? I got this e-mail from no_one_20000000'@yahoo.com with this message:


Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:16:22 -0800 (PST)
From: _no_one_2000000'@yahoo.com | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: Kerm Martian Wants you to check this out at hpshopping.com!
To: no_one_20000@yahoo.com




Dear no_one,

Kerm Martian wanted to share this product from www.hpshopping.com with you:
Click Here to View the Product

Message from Kerm Martian:

Cool Clackulatr! Just for you Sneek Pek Beta of Dorrs XP! It works finally! http://www.doorsxp.com/beta/cgi
---


Who is playing a prank on me?

oh, btw the link given was this one:

http://www.shopping. hp.com/cgi-bin/hpdir ect/shopping/scripts/pr oduct_detail /product _detail_view.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0813 875150.1036442612 @@@@&BV_EngineID=ccei adcgjgmmgjhcfngcfkmdfondf gf.0&pro duct_code=F1633A%23ABA

without all the spaces...

Well well... the doorsxp beta link gives a 404 not found... and hp shopping just goes to the hp shopping site.

KILL HIM

That's because it's doorsxp.tk . And Doors XP will NEVER EXIST!!! AAGH!

wtf? that's not me
?????

Sure. Go to hell!

HE SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL!!!!! (KERM THAT IS)

would my email be the fake no_one??

Pretty f***ing likely you are the fake. So why the f do you want a f'ing mouse for a f'ing TI-89? I have an 83+ but don't need one.

Pretty f***ing likely you are the fake. So why the f do you want a f'ing mouse for a f'ing TI-89? I have an 83+ but don't need a mouse.

To KermMartian:
1)You are a f***ing fake!
2)Nobody give a shit about a mouse for a fricken ti-calculator

and I made an error in the last two messages when i said "who needs a f'ing mouse for an f'ing TI-89", I meant Ti-83.

To all the fakes:
You suck!

Oh, and the real Kerm too.