Hmmm... I like the media folder, it really reduces clutter. In my opinion, whenever a folder gets above 100-200 files it should be split up into more specific folders.

I am worried about the Voyage 200 (start humming Toy Story theme), will it make the TI-83+/TI-89 obsolete?

Toy Story?!?!

You've got a friend in me... You've got a friend in me...

I LOVE TOY STORY!!
I memorized ALL of the spoken lines in the first one.
You've got troubles, I've got them too.
There isn't anything I wouldn't do for you.
If we stick together, we can see it through, cuz
You got a friend in me!!

sick puppy

Actually, I memorized all the lines in there too, but I was a lot younger then. :-}

Well, I'm 14 and I still know them.....

And you're in Highschool? Hm...

You've got a friend in me.
You've got a friend in me.
You've got troubles, we'll I got 'em too.
There isn't anything that I wouldn't do.
We stick together and see it through, 'cause you've got a friend in me.
Some people might be a little bit smarter than I am, bigger and stronger too,
but none of them, will ever love you the way I do, it's me and you...
and as the years go by, our friendship will never die, you gotta see it's our destiny, 'cause you've got a friend in me, yes you've got a friend in me

or something like that, I think I watched it a bit too much. :) LOL

So what if I'm in HS?
What are you in?

HS. ;-) Pretty much everybody on this site is. I just thought you were starting HS a year before you were supposed to, but now that I think about it, it makes sense. Ignore me, I'm schtoopid. :)

I'm not!

Yeah, I know you're not, but that's okay. :)

Heh, LOL my parents are babysitting a friend's baby and their watching Toy Story 2 right now... LOL.

V200 will absoulutely not make the 83+/89 obsolete. It does, however, replace the TI-92+. Texas Instruments does not even expect the V200 to sell very well. It was mainly created for 68K enthusiasts like me... I wont be buying one though, I'm perfectly happy with my 89, especially after the new OS is released, icon desktop, clock, mmmm....

I wouldn't mind having one. After all, there are lots of new interesting features to check out... and it would give me another model to make games for! *everybody groans*

I want one so I can test out multiplayer games, VTI just sometimes doesn't cut it. Of course, my games aren't as crappy as, let's say, PICROSS89. You want a "real" game? Download "Mr. Data" or "Radial Pong", those are cool games.

well, i'm happy with my 89 too and don't exactly have extra $180 or so to blow. However clock is a nice thing but not for large mem (I think 89 has enough mem). It'd be nice if TI put a small speaker into V200 sorta like in HP49G.

When the new AMS2.07 comes out, it will utilize the already built-in clock that was put in all HW2 calcs. The new AMS (supposedly) is also supposed to manage memory differently, so people who bought their 89 when it came with 800K of mem should have 2MB available.

no way, are you saying all HW2 calcs already have clock in them but it's not used by AMS? gee, if this is true, that's very cool.

Absolutely! TI started putting crystals in them in anticipation of the V200, AMS2.07 will make the calc's compatible and similar as the TI-89 is to the 92+

how come its not possible to use this clock from an ASM program? i thought ASM doesn't depend on AMS this much. anyways, clock would be a very cool thing to have on a calc and would make their usage much broader.

Don't most processors have crystals to determine/limit their speed anyway? If that is so, then all calcs have clocks and it's just a matter of programming them correctly...

even if they do, real clock would be keeping time when the calc is off. the way you suggested, woudn't work if calc is tuned off unless some sort of sleep mode or low power mode can be made up.

oh good point, never thought of that

I just hope they're all right! If they are, then there's almost no need to get a V200!!!

Well, from what I know, you can use the clock, but I don't think it keeps time or anything. Plus, I don't think it works when it's off. If it does, then it's news to me.

well, i installed AMS 2.08 couble hours ago and setup the clock to a correct time and date and so far it works very well and the time is accurite. of course it keeps time even when you turn off the calc or otherwise there won't be a good point of having clock of any kind. so far however, clock is only thing i found worthy after upgrading from 2.05. maybe csc(, etc. would be useful too but i had no trouble converting to those myself.

Well, in ASM there are TIMER object things that you can use as a clock, and they seem to be accurate

i'll bet there's really like 64 MB of memory in these things, TI just needs a reason for people to upgrade AMS to restrict ASM program capabilities etc... (although it'll get patched before it even comes out)

well, maybe not 64 megs, but AMS definitely takes rediculously large amount of space. if optimized to the fullest, I'm sure it could free a lot of memory.

AMS 2.05 takes up 1.3 MB of memory, I don't know what AMS 2.07 takes up. As I recall, Windows 3.1 took up about that much, but it didn't have built-in graphing tools, a built-in programming utility, etc.

Win3.1 only took up that much? Geez... Wonder what XP does.

hehe, i still have those Win 3.1 floppies lying in the box in my basement. btw, Windoze 3.1 did way more things that AMS. oh, and it was on 2 or 3 floppy disks so, it was larger than 1.3 megs. but i think it had some misc progs coming along with it.

If I remember correctly, windows 3.1 came on 6 1.44 MB floppy disks (which i still have in my basement somewhere), but I am guessing that a lot of the space was taken up by identical files on all 6 disks, and also installation programs, not to mention other programs like solitare, minesweeper, paint, and other included programs...

hmm, maybe it was 6 disks, it was so damn long ago or i'm missing some ;) have anyone tried putting Win XP onto floppies? hehe, that'd be funny and would take some time that's for sure!

Well, you're half way right, the VERY FIRST public release of Windows 3.1 took up a maximum of 2.5 MB (compressed down to one floppy). It only stayed out for a month before the next release came out that had (guess what) tons of bug fixes.

I believe that 98 SE takes up a minimum of 260 MB (or somewhere around there) so XP probably takes up more.

XP takes up like 7 GB

Clean up your Temp folder ;) I think it takes around 1.6 or 1.8 gigs and it also stored your previous Windoze (which you can delete if you don't plan to go back).

Actually, AMS 2.07 has already been released (June, 25th I think). It appears to be only for the V200 though and since it is supposed to be an update to AMS 2.06 that comes installed on the V200 I'm slightly worried that there may not be an AMS update planed for the 89 or the 92+.

There is a release planned for the TI-92+, although there is no mention of an 89 version, I highly doubt TI would not release one, even if it came out months after the 92+ version.

oh, btw, Radial Pong is cool thing. Interesting idea. I once saw a pong proggy for pc where you had 4 paddles on each side of the fields and used mouse to move them. Was a pretty cool game, but only a demo. Might be a nice idea for some new calc games.

I could do that in Javascript pretty easily. And, I made Pong4, a game just like the one you described for the 89, but I was in a hurry. I made it to test how fast the sin() and cos() functions worked and how to use float numbers, so the graphics are p00p!, but the game is kind of fun. And tell cantelope to stop dissing my game. That is p00p! :(

you can't draw lines in javascript. it's possible in java however.

Oh, did I say that? Oops, I meant that I wanted to make the ball move in an angle, not draw a line. I know in Java you can draw lines, but I forget most of the Java I learned, I think I should re-learn it again, even thoguh it's kind of obsolete.

Java obsolete? ARE YOU KIDDING! My computational science teacher thinks it's going to replace C++! So do the guys who make the AP CompSci course, next year they're changing the once C++ course to Java! I'm kind of mad theough, cause I'm a C++ programmer, but I've learnt to deal with it...

Yeah, at our HS their changing C++ to Java. I'm kinda ticked at that, because Java has to be run by an interpreter (in an applet on a webpage, or in an application that's run by java.exe or whatever). C++ can just be double-clicked on and run as a stand-alone app. I don't know if Java can do this or not, but oh well. I still like the langauge. I kinda wanted to learn C++, though, cause in my opinion, it's more powerful.

Well, the TI-FLASH SDK was created in Java, I think it has it's own built-in VM.

Same here. I personally think that Java is the more useless language ... but that's my opinion. I actually haven't seen all too many Java applets, besides Geocities' Page Builder.

The best Java applet I ever saw was Homestead's website creater thing. Wow. That's pretty complex.
I agree with you also that C++ is more useful in most cases.

I'm learning Java now, and I think you have to have an interpreter like the one that comes with the Java Developer's Kit...or you can program an applet and put it in a webpage...

Java is a very good OE language. And expands browser's abilities very far. Java is musch easier to learn and to program than C++ yet you can do about as much in java as you would in C++. If you haven't seen any decent or useful Java applets or don't know Java it doesn't make it obsolete. Btw, good notice that Java replaces C++ in APCS classes. That was kinda interesting, though I though APCS class was kinda gay when I took it. I learned more and better on my own and AP exam was ridiculous and wasn't a very good skill test. Well, that's just my opinion. Anyway, GO JAVA!

Actually, I stole the idea from a website called something like "JavaGames.org" (i'm not sure if that's it). A person at school was playing it during class and decided to turn it into a calculator program.

Aw, that was harsh. Stop dissing my game, f00l. :) Oh well, I'm probably in better shape than you, but then again, I can never really be sure about that.

hmm, i didn't see him or anyone else dissing your games...

"my games aren't as crappy as, let's say, PICROSS89. You want a \"real\" game? Download \"Mr. Data\" or "Radial Pong", those are cool games"

Check the comment that I replied to. He's a meanyp00. :(

What's up with the slashes? I think I'm going to change my username, my website isn't even CanteloupeWEB anymore.

Huh? Not sure. I guess in a set of quotes, if you want a quote character inside, you have to escape it with the \ operator thing, but that's kind of stupid, since this isn't in any language, plus I forgot two anyway. Besides, I was tired that day, and I still am today. I just woke up.

JSC v1.6 IS THE BEST SPRITE CREATER EVER! HAHA!

JSC 1.6 is w00t! (you'll find it under ticalc.org/pub/win/ I think.)

It's a sprite creater in Javascript, and it's Fast, simple, and easy to use. You can import sprite binary for z80 assembly, hex for C, and hex for A68K. It's really cool. You can make quick 8x8 and 16x16 (I really haven't found a good way to do the 32x32 yet) and there are PLENTY of options, such as
Output code in 3 different formats
Flip the Sprite Horizontally/Vertically
Invert the Sprite
Rotate the sprite clockwise / counter clockwise
Shift the sprite left, right, down, and up.
Store/Load sprite to a cookie
List the saved sprites in the cookies
And it's all FUN!
Okay... I think I talk too much... but DOWNLOAD IT ANYWAY!