they ought to make a seperate file in the "levels" folder for the TI-83+ Mario levels =p

Yes, definitely!
I have made several in my spare time but haven't uploaded them yet...

There's a good idea...

The same with the 82 (unless they did it while I wasn't paying attention). They need a Mario Levels Folder. :)

Done... probably missed a few files, but since I don't know the Mario "world" I couldn't tell if some files were for Mario or not. :)

BTW, if anyone can help me clear up what different Mario versions there are, and what levels should go where, please do - I just took eveything with "mario" in it and put it in the same dir, but I see several Mario _games_ in there too...

The doorsos subfolders are missing from the V200 directory tree. While DoorsOS itself does not run on the V200, PreOs does, and we will certainly see kernel-dependent executables for the V200, so please provide separate folders for them right now. Otherwise, we will end up once again with a big mix of kernel-dependent and _nostub executables with no clue of which is which.

This should go without saying, but I will say it anyway:

The kernel-based directory for the Voyage 200 really should not be named the 'DoorsOS' directory, but rather the 'PreOs' directory. And on the same subject the TI-89 and TI-92 Plus 'DoorsOS' directories would best be renamed to 'Universal OS/PreOS' directories or at least 'kernel-based' directories since DoorsOS is no longer the right choice for them either.

I've named them "doorsos" for now, but I plan on changing it. "kernel-based" is good, but a little on the long side. "kernel" might work, but it feels a bit wrong somehow. Further suggestions?

I think 'PreOS' would indeed be the most informative to users since that is the only kernel that works for the Voyage 200, and likely will continue to be (it is unlikely for DoorsOS or TEOS to ever support it).

Perhaps, but what about future kernels? Assuming they use the same file format a generic name would be best to use on all three calcs.

Well, you can always deal with the future situation in the future, I guess. But just 'kernel' would seem a lot better than 'DoorsOS' due to its lack of compatibility. I actually don't think 'PreOS' is a good name for all three directories, since (according to some reports) it is not fully stable yet and thus not the best choice for a TI-89 or TI-92 Plus.

i think some variant of 'Kernel' is best... otherwise, shouldn't we be calling them plusshell based programs?

-Greg

If your idea is to use the oldest shell imaginable, then yes, that probably is right. But if I recall correctly the file format was developed jointly by the PlusShell and DoorsOS developers.

What I was trying to say is that it would make the most sense to users if the name of the directory would be the name of a kernel that they could use to run the programs in the directory. And for the possible future situation in which there is more than one choice, it wouldn't be too bad to use the name of the oldest kernel that is still usable.

Well, I still use DoorsOS. Nothing else works. I have tried Universal OS but when I run it (after installing it, of course) nothing happens. I'm not sure if I've tried PreOS, though.

PreOS is weird--does it work? It doesn't have any explorer thing in it and it just says it's installed and I haven't noticed any difference. OBTW, don't delete the doors program when it's running. That's not good. :(

lol, how'd you figure that out?

the hard way. :)

It is likely that Universal OS did work for you, but you just didn't realize it! Universal OS is only a kernel, not a shell, so nothing is supposed to happen after installing it, other than that you have the ability to run kernel-based programs, through the home screen or from any shell, including the "Doors" shell.

The problem with Doors is not that it can never work. It is usable if you have AMS 2.04 or below, but (unless you get the alpha version of 0.99 which is not the version on ticalc.org) it is only partially compatible with AMS 2.05. Meanwhile Universal OS is fully compatible up to AMS 2.05. Furthermore the grayscale libraries of DoorsOS will run on HW2, but they don't work as well as those of Universal OS. Since there is no HW2Patch for higher AMS versions, it can't work at all on those (only PreOS does at the moment). Since DoorsOS seems to have long been abandoned by its developers, there is little chance for it to catch up.

Well, it works very well for me. Also, I thought that universal OS had all the libraries in it. I tried SMQ but it didn't work...

DoorsOS is fine (I have it), but I never use it. I maily write my own programs now, and very rarely use games. I just downloaded kerNO, and it works GREAT, although the only thing I have done so fat is run sw89 and not quit immediately when it was archived.
Still, no errors.

What's sw89? Is it a program?

sw89 is a crappy designed 3d object designer. It only works stable on HW1 calcs, and on AMS 2.05 it crashes every few runs.

Dunno, but sw89 never crashed on me and it was made for HW2 calcs actually. I think you're just using some old kernel that's it. In fact, sw89 is quite good and much faster than 3D grapher in AMS. sw89 also the only 3D editor on calc so I think it deserves credit even if it'd crash every so often.

Oh, is that what that 3d object greater thing is? I was going to download that... but then I got sidetracted.

SW89 is not a badly designed 3d thingy, it simply suffers from things such as a lack of a mouse on TI, etc. These could be circumvented, but it is just fine - except for that it is hard to change things in the editor. Oh well.

It looked good from the screenshots/description.