I read the CNN article and they did not mention half of the stuff that the TI-89 can do. One such example the e-books. Also on the other link the people were fussing about cheating on a calculator and people not learning because of the calculator doing it. If the teacher has pop tests without calcs. then you have to learn the material.

I think that they should say that TI IS BETTER because it obviously is. I didn't see the CNN article, so i don't know all it said.

Obviously you don't own a PDA. I own 2 PDA's - a Casio E-125 and a HP. Both of them have advanced graphing and math software installed; I also have 256-color games, such as Doom, Quake, and much more; I also have Visual Basic / C for Windows CE; and the all-favorite media player, with good sound quality. I also bought a fold out keyboard (pocket sized) that folds out to a good size. It has the internet, and is in 256-colors.

Compare this to a TI: Basic graphing, software; 2 basic colors (with the exception of a few grayscales...); limited games with really no true 3-D effects; media player? HA. ; Keyboard? 3rd party; Internet? I wouldn't think of it.

--Sherman Cahal

graphing in 256 colors sounds useful!!!

paying through the nose for a color screen doesn't!!

I bet your games wern't free, and there arn't as many as on this site!!

Did you have to pay for you math package??

I have a Discman!!

>graphing in 256 colors sounds useful!!!

Very.

>paying through the nose for a color screen doesn't!!

$450 wasn't bad at the time.

>I bet your games wern't free, and there arn't as many >as on this site!!

Actually, most of them are. I recieved Doom, Quake, and many others free. The only one I have had to pay for is Sim City 2000.

>Did you have to pay for you math package??

Yes, $5.00.

You paid for games? There are some that aren't free?

Did you rip the other ones off some else with a PDA that paid for them?

You paid 450+15+5= $470
My 83+```````````= $95

and I can use mine @ school without a big hassel!!

i got a new computer for 475! and my school doesnt allow PDAs

What is a 83+```````````?

spacers

Are you not the same Sherman Cahal that argued that asm was a high level language over at Maxcoders....

http://www.maxcoderz.co m/index.php? action=News&subaction=Co mments&id=26
{use link without spaces}

..please dont try to embarrass yourself again. The TI is superior to the PDA.

Why do people put spaces in URLs? It is simply annoying... Maybe it keeps WebSlugs (crawlers) off the bandwidth?

From what I've read here before, ticalc.org limits the length of http... links.

It's because there's a word length limit ... 40 characters. The space is necessary to break it up.

The only reason is you can't have any word over 40 characters long. So, I couldn't say

SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Without the space, or it would give me an error.

it helps enforce the
>Don't post comments designed to disrupt page display, such as excessively long comments or gibberish.
rule, i guess, because it keeps them from holding down a key for tooooooooooooo long.

Well hell, there is only one Sherman Cahal, DUH.

I am pretty proficent in what I discuss. I have completed 20 hours of Comp. Sci. courses, which makes me elegible to complete a four year course within a matter of a year or two, instead of the typical four. I believe that the people at MaxCoderz have no clue in what they discuss, with the exception of a few who actually program assembly. The rest are what you call "posers", who attempt to hide the fact that they are knowledless in what they talk about.

ASM is still a low-level language. You do agree with me on that, right?

Yes.

I own a PDA, two TI-89s, and a TI-85. I've already had to pay $100 (TWICE) to replace a cracked screen on my PDA. My TIs have not cracked, despite the hundreds of times I dropped them. Simply from a financial standpoint, I like TIs better.

I also use my T-89 about ten times as much as my PDA. In fact, I can't ever *remember* the last time I used my PDA. I love TI, and always will.

Oh good God, if you can crack your screen THAT many times, you are hopeless... I haven't cracked mine once and it's a year+ old.

But seriously, the calculators can put up with a lot of roughness. A friend of mine at school dropped one down the stairs and it worked fine afterwards. The memory didn't even erase. What's even more amazing--It was a TI-82!!!

I have the funny reason that the calculators before the TI-83+ are much stronger ... and they've got that nice piece of plastic covering the LCD.

I knew a person who dropped theirs and lost 2 pixels...

once we were having an orange fight in study hall, and orange got all over one kids 82, an he used windex or somthing, and now theres lines of pixels that wont work

LOL! He should SUE!

Has he ever found those two pixels :-?

lol ... that happened to my old TI-86. I dropped from pretty far up onto marble. Needless to say, it didn't exactly survive unscathed. A column 9 pixels wide on the right side of the screen refused to work. So I sent it in to TI to get a replacement.

I'm gonna get my 83+ screen fixed, it has ~20-35 pixels malfunctioning and in the middle is COMPLETELY white! It won't show anything!

I had my Visor in my pocket and leaned forward against a PLUSH COUCH and the thing cracked. It simply isn't worth the time, money, and effort for me to have it replaced again. I just type everything into it now and avoid the screen as much as possible.

BTW, did you know a screen replacement for a Visor Basic costs *more* than the Visor Basic itself?

They have to take it out and replace the flat ribbon cable that connects the LCD to the mainboard. They do it the easy but expensive way: pull the mainboard, transfer your settings & data to the new one, and install the new one. also, they want people to stop being stupid.

No kidding. I drop the calculator all the time. I also keep it in my pocket a lot, where it takes a lot of abuse...Heck, I got in a FIGHT once with my calculator in my pocket, and I ended up pulling it out to use as a weapon (I take martial arts - if necessary, anything handy becomes a weapon, to me anyway...) but after the fight, I pulled it out to play Mario and it worked fine. I'd love to see you do THAT with a palm pilot!

I usually bring two of my calcs to school (sometimes three or for (depending on how many pockets I have)) and they fall out probably once or twice every day.

I usually have my 83+ with me only, if I think I'm going to get in a fight, I whip out my 92+!!!

Whip out the ol' 92+ and load corridor:
"Stand back, I WILL shoot you..."
"No, please, no!"
"Don't make me do it!"
"AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"

The next ticalc.org news item reads: "Student beaten up by a TI-92+ calculator"

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My calculator is faster!

It's funny, I'm here, reading all these comments in the this thread, and this is probably the hardest I've ever laughed at reading text off the internet! :)

Welcome to the wacky world that we nerds live in!

Surely you don't think that *I* am very funny, if at all. You must be on Prozac and nitrous oxide or something.

HEHEHEHEHE!

You need to date more often, or even date, period. Repeat to yourself, "Girls are good".

Okay, I'll admit, I've had sort of a social famine myself in terms of dating, but I now have a date on Thursday with a very fine looking girl. I'll be sure to treat her well.

Me: Hey you, wanna go on a date?
Other person: *smack*
Me: Oww! Can I take that as a 'no'?

There was one person that was pretty nice, but she's off to a different high school

lol ... I can imagine that. Or better yet, it goes to court and becomes People vs. Disabato.

"MOE IN A SAILOR SUIT! WITH A LOLLY!!"
- from readme file for Wacky Fun Random Numbar Generator, by Nick Disabato.

that one was just on earlier this week.(minneapolis)

1. get rechargeable batteries
2. write basic program to turn linkport into taser with extra computrons
( http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/ entry/computron.html )
3. get in fight
4. attatch dongle to link port
5. use taser

LOL! HA! TAKE THIS! *beats offender with calculator* HAHAHA! *whack* *whack*
Other person: NOOOOO!! NOT THE CALCULATOR!
Toreal: YOU MUST DIE! *pulls out TI-83*
Other person: OW! OW! OW!
...

yes yes yes, exactly. Well, no not exactly...I sort of punched him in the face first...

That sounds fun! I think I'll take my TI-82 as a weapon in case kids who are high on drugs try to beat me up or something. :)

TI-82s are FLIMSY. Use TI-83 Pluses or a TI-70, since they have flash ROM the casing is harder and the calculator weighs 3X the weight of TI-82s!
I've dropped my 83+ 12 times, didn't break once. It also hit me in the head and it HURT BAD very useful, quadruples as, A Gameboy like thing, Weapon, Grpahing, and making yo own programs!

better: wip out a 92/+, the bulkiest of them all.

even better than that: get out a palm and, once it breaks, use the sharp corners left and the broken peices to your advantage.

Hell no! even better= 3 TI-92+

I've never seriously dropped my 83+, thanks to that little plastic ridge under the ON key. I know why it's there now, because I once dropped my 83+ from about 4 feet up on concrete. I was holding it with one hand, and it slipped but I was able to lash out and smack it into my leg, pinning it from falling by my finger on that plastic bump.

I always thought that the ridge was for if the cover got pushed (like in your pocket) it wouldn't hit toe ON key and waste your batteries.

Um, you can do that with a Pocket PC. In fact, there are games many more times better than Mario...

Oh, so calculators do not have the internet, hey?
Well, get an 83+, plug in the graphlink, add a null modem cable, a modem, a phoneline, install 'Telnet 83+', dial out and there you have a simple terminal emulation package.
Now, take that and add an HTML renderer- there is a calc with internet access.
I think that someone should try to make an adapter that has the linkport socket on one end and the serial adapter that plugs into the modem-
or that TI should make a modem with a linkport on it and an app that does full internet access...

And for TI89 there is my port of TCP/IP protocol

but facing the fact that they CAN'T access the internet
BEWARE HACKERS!

New excuse for when your homework isn't done:

Someone hacked my graphing calculator

Doom and Quake in 256? bad!

they didnt mention e-books because its not something built in.

Anyways, my teacher complains about my 83+ being distracting and doing to much calculus and not me.. Why on earth would she want all the classes to switch to full color PDA's?

On a side note, the article said that PDA's start at about $200. But those are the ones about as complicated as a cell phone. In order to get one that can do 0.00001% a 89 can you'd have to spend around $500.

... and then buy $25 worth of software

tuh. AT LEAST 25$ worth. And thats just if you want graphing capability. If you want games and other programs, its another $25 a pop.....

No, most of the games are free. I got games like Doom, Quake, many graphical RPGs for free. The only one I have bought is Sim City 2000, and that was for $15.00.

Sim City... for $15.00? Don't they have sites like this where people submit programs that are great (and some that aren't) for FREE?

Yes, there are many.

But.... $15.00? Sheesh! Sim City 2000 for the computer doesn't even cost that much, and I KNOW the computer version has to be better!

Sim City 2000 cost me $50.00 when it first came out in the...

dark ages.

I remember when games were horribly expensive in the days of the 486 and the Commodore.

Well.... Sim City 3000 didn't even cost that much when it came out.

Well Unlimited is $10.00 more expensive than 3000!
can't WAIT FOR Simcity 4!

I have Simcity 3000!

Yes it did...The first day it was available I bought it for $49.99 in CompUSA.

the ppl at Hastings sold 3000 for $59.99