now we just need chess for the 83

agree! let's have a poll about who uses what calc most!

i disagree, now that chess is on a z80, someone should just port it now. no poll needed.

But drop the greyscale.

yeah,
no chess game for the 83(+)/se is going to be pretty
..but try to suprise me anyway!!

someone should port it to the 83+(SE) as a flash app.
This is sooo w00ty!
I want an 86 to play Chessmaster 86!
Someone port it!
Please, please!

michal v, could you take a break from those cool new progs, and port this? Please?

But I like coo progs!

this wouldn't be a cool new prog, this would be a cool *old* prog!

Oh. w00t!

We don't need no w00tication...

We need w00t!ication!
w00t!

All in all, it's just another brick in the w00t!

Another Brick in the Wall Part II (Waters)
We don't need no education!
We don't need no thought control.
No dark sarcasm in the classroom.
Teachers leave them kids alone...
HEY! TEACHERS!
Leave them kids alone!
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

Young Lust (Gilmour, Waters)
I am just a new boy.
A stranger in this town.
Where are all the good times?
Who's gonna show this stranger around?

(Chorus)
OOOOHHHhhhhh I need a dirty woman.
OOOOHHHhhhhh I need a dirty gal...

keep adding on to this chain!!!

w00t!

we need to add on to <i>this</i> chain!!

lets make a pryamid!

PARADE FOR AMISH PARADISE!

We aren't gonna take it!
No we ain't gonna take it!
We aren't gonna take it... anymore!

Bla
Bla
Blah
3.141592653589793238462643 3832795028841971693993... LOL I know about 90 digits right now.

From memory:

pi = 3.141592653589793238 4626433832795028841971693 9937510582097494459230781 6406286298998628034825342

GAME123

It shouldn't be too hard to port, except I hear the 86 has a wierd bcall based 24 bit addressing. Nonetheless, it's doable.

24 bit addresses are only used in assembly programs to access external variables and the like. The rest is just regular 16-bit addresses. I don't even think TI-OS functions are called with 24 bits.

Yeah... ROM calls are located on the permanently loaded rom page (I don't recall which number). They're addressed using 16 bits and the code at those addresses is responsible for loading using the 24 bit addressing to load the actual rom page and calling it. (This has the side effect that TI can change all of the real addresses and just leave the jump table the same between rom versions).

The ROM page is $0D. And it is always loaded in when executing an assembly program. However, the asm program can swap it out, and replace it with another rom page, or even a ram page. Most (if not all) of the routines in the call table on page $0D refer to routines that are on rom page $00 that is always loaded in. The 86 has four places to have pages of memory on. The first one is static rom, the second one is swappable rom, the third is swappable ram, the fourth is static ram.

Please, don't get technical, unt port it!
w00t!

Yeah I don't even program in assembly.
port it!
w00t!

I don't believe I've ever replied to you before

...or you.
I'm kinda new around here.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
but I caught on to the w00t! thing pretty fast!
w00t! w00t!

I'm guessing here on the various memory banks:

static ROM: essential functions and functions that assembly programs can call
swappable ROM: applications (graph, program editor, etc.)
static RAM: screen memory, system flags, floating point operands (OP1, OP2, etc.)
swappable RAM: user assembly programs area, user variables

Are these correct?

The swappable rom contains the call table when executing an assembly program. Otherwise I suppose the OS swaps in whatever page it needs to do the things it do :)

The static ram (page 0) looks kinda like this:

RAM PAGE 0 (16k)
0C000h -------------------------
(ABS) | |
| system memory |
| |
|-------------------------|
| INTER BANK RAM CACHE |
|-------------------------|
| RESEVERED RAM FOR |
| ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE |
| PROGRAMMING ~ 10k |
|-------------------------|
| ^ |
| : |
| hardware stack |
0FC00h |-------------------------|
| display |
0FFFFh -------------------------

Ram pages 2-7 contain the user memory (this is where all your programs are stored) and the symbol table.

At the top of ram page 1 is the FPS (Floating Point Stack) and at the bottom is the OPS (Operator Stack). In between there's free memory. This free memory is often used in asm programs as temporary storage.

HHHHEEEEYYYYY!!! Chickendude!

I just downloaded PrgmBAD. It's pretty cool! :)

Um... didn't we already have one like that?

I don't know, but if there was when was it??????
:-/

um... good question.

There was that one that was, "If you were going to buy another calc, which one would it be?" The choices were TI-89, 83+(SE), Voyage 200, and another one (I forget what it was).

Either 73, 80, 81, 82, 83, 92, 92+, or none!
(*gasp* how'd he know?)

My God (me hehe), how'd he know?
Ah, maybe he looked in the archived surveys ...

Or it could be that I just remebered responding to it. sp00n!

THERE IS NO SPOON. :-p

f00t!

p00p!

ohhh...that was g00d...

p00 on y00!

And then clean it up with a p00per sc00per! w00t!

Oh man not another nut who forgot about the 85 and 86! Isn't this entire article devoted to the 86 (and chess) (and the author)?

The 85/86 wasn't a choice in the survey. You could only choose from the calcs that TI's NOT planning on discontinuing.

oh. sorry.


<grrr>

No need for a poll, it's easly the TI-83+. It is reqired in a LOT of high school math curricula.

It's not REQUIRED. The 86 works perfectly fine. It's just that the 83+'s simpler interface (is it really simpler? Or does it just seem like that) makes it more appealing to people.

I love chess. So many chess games to choose from. Just never a good one for the 83/+/SE. Not that it matters since I have an 89. :)

89 works for me and the 2 other people in my school that have them. We have about 1300. And the 83+'s "simpler interface" is more appealing because some people aren't bright enought to figure anything out. It took some kid literally 2 minutes to find quit on an 83 today. I had to keep myself from laughing.

1300 students, that is. Sorry if I confused you.

I was kind of implying something similar to what you said about that kid who took 2 minutes to figure out how to quit. For some reason, though, it seems as if more and more people at my school are getting an 86 ...

when they have this for the 83plus, then i will get excited. but until then... who cares

...probabilly the 86 owners

I forget what I was going to say.