These calculators are expensive, I just had my TI83+ stolen by some kid in my school. Now I shall have to buy another one for my school work, this time it will be a TI89 (even more expensive). Can't you add some safety features to your new calculators, like a beeping device with a remote that attaches to you keychain. I am being very serious, and I bet most of your customers are High School kids who would like this new option, trust me many kids have had theirs stolen. It would be great in you TI Silver version.

These calculators are expensive, I just had my TI83+ stolen by some kid in my school. Now I shall have to buy another one for my school work, this time it will be a TI89 (even more expensive). Can't you add some safety features to your new calculators, like a beeping device with a remote that attaches to you keychain. I am being very serious, and I bet most of your customers are High School kids who would like this new option, trust me many kids have had theirs stolen. It would be great in your TI Silver version.

I have 2 calculators and probably won't buy another one until a better one comes out. The 2 I have are the TI-89 and the HP-49G. I bought a HP-49G because my Calculus 2 professor wouldn't let me use the TI-89. And since I'm an Electrical Engineer major, I figured I might as well buy an HP calc. At first I found the HP-49G to be very hard to use because I was so use the user friendly menus on the 89. Now I use the HP-49G...one thing I like is the step by step...helped me out on a lot of problems in Calculus 2. Another thing, the latest update for the HP-49G(V 1.19-5) makes a lot of things run faster...even faster than the 89 on somethings. I probably won't buy another TI, unless it can do more than the 89 or HP-49G.

MikeH

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In response to that last update, I personally don't care how fast they make the 83 plus. The software on the TI-89 will always give it a major advantage.

I wouldn't be too fast to call the 83+ obsolete. I am still perfectly happy with mine. You don't really need all that extra flash memory when its ram is so low. The 89 lets you run things out of the archive because it makes a temporary copy in ram and runs that. In this way you can easily archive anything that you don't need to edit in the near future. The current AMS even tries to restore the archive in a crash. The 83+ SE might have more archive, but it's still not as user-friendly as the TI-89's archive. As long as the ram on the 83+ is the same on both versions, the archive will probably only benefit you with long-term storage. It can hold about 60? grouped files that take up all your ram to extract. Be careful how you manage your files or you'll spend forever trying to find things :P Of course most of you will probably just have that much more games on your calc, so why bother managing anything? The crashes will clean things up for you :P My TI-89 hasn't crashed since I stopped using asm programs on it over a year ago. I prefer to write my own software based on what I need. That's getting off-topic though. TI does not make improvements to their calcs to make their other models look worse (they would like you to buy all of them for sure), so the whole idea of saying (or in some places arguing) that so-in-so calculator is better than this other one because it is x faster and no it isn't because of this other thing is to me silly and quite pointless. It isn't a competition.

I was one of the more unfortunate people to fall for the SE trap. Sure, it runs at 15 MHz, but only in BASIC programs and certain ASM progs with the _SetEXSpeed command in them. When it runs apps and ASM programs, it slows back down.
The idiots at TI did update the LCD driver, in such a way that running a program with the ionfastcopy direction running at full speed causes the screen to become highly... mangled. You should see it running Mirage (wow!). You can use TI's original _GrBufCpy, but being as slow as it is, it slows it back down to a good ol' 83+ speed, if not slower. It does graph fast, though.
But what the hell are you going to do with 1.5 MB of flash and only 24K of RAM?????? I managed to use the WAV player program to play a full-length song... split into 5-second blips. However, when it reached *600 KB free*, it said it was out of memory.
I e-mailed TI support on it, and they just said to try making APPS. What, using ZDS??? F$%# that! They make you use things like "db" instead of ".db", and if that isn't bad enough, numbers have to be in the form "4567h", not "$4567"! Imagine converting all that!!!
The SE comes with a TI-Graph Link cable. Whoopee. For Windows only - it's the beloved, incompatible "Black Link" - compatible with NOTHING. Just try to get a ROM image off this son of a biotch - it just sits there with its head up its arse when you run the dump program.
A simple word of advice: DO NOT BUY A SE!

Silver isnt that bad. I got a rom off mine but it doesnt work on the emulator thing...
It has so much freeking memory I dont even have to delete games... I'm kind of the game 'bank' for my friends who dont have link cables and need games they deleted. And the silver edition is sooo much faster than my friends 83+.
Good idea making games apps. Then we can have huge 3D games that actually are good. Gemini is cool but i have to archive everything to play it. And so what if you have to use db instaed of .db? Program something to covert it for you. Thats what i would do.

Has anyone had any problems running the 83+ games on the SE? I can barely get any asm programs to work on my new 83+ SE. The only asm shell that I can get running is IZZARD (which I hate) and numerous attempts on gettin ION to work has failed! I've also tried several games and none of them seem to work, except tetris which had a mangled display. The only programs that I can get to run properly are flash and BASIC programs. Has anyone else had any of these issues? Is there a compatability issue with the SE? I am using win2k pro and the silver usb cable that came with the calculator. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thats... odd, mine runs Ion with ZERO problems, and only Penguins doesn't work correctly (display flips out sorta).

Ion sucks.It's great that it doesn't take up much memory, but if the RAM gets cleared, you lose ion. MirageOS is a good shell to use, it plays all my games for ion and it lists them better. The only game that doesn't work so great with MirageOS is, breakout. It works good enough, but is a little slower and takes more time to load.