ACKPTH! nickd returns.

Anyhow, as if owning an 83+ didn't already make me feel somehow inferior....now I have my first obselete calculator!

So, should we call this thing the 83++ or something?

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asim

if we do, then it should have support for c++ lol. and maybe in the near future we might have a special edition of the 89 called 89 Gold.. haha ;)

I think it'll be called the 83S or 83+S.

I'd like to add that this Silver Edition 83+ will be equipped with a 15 MHz Z80 Processor, which will then be the fastest TI calculator available. I am concerned with the gameplay of existing games because their speed will be greatly increased, and perhaps too fast for a user. Maybe the shells that will have to be slightly rewritten for this new calc can compensate for the speed by putting delays in the interrupt routine, but we will see later. I hope to see some programs taking advantage of this 15 MHz processor, and hopefully TI was smart enough to upgrade their LCD Driver too.

I thought that the Motorola 68k processors used in the TI-89 etc had better performance than the Zilog on a clock for clock basis, somehow I doubt that the TI-83 silver edition would be faster than a TI-89 (in most cases) with a 12Mhz Motorola 68k processor. It will probably be much faster at graphing though.

Being completely calculator obsessed, I plan to buy one the very first day they are available in the stores near me. I'm already planning a program to slow down existing games, like you mentioned via the interrupts. This calculator sounds so great. This is more than just another calculator. I think this marks the point where TI calculators become more than calculators. They now pack serious computing power!

Since when did a 15 MHz Z80 mean "serious computing power" (since 486, anyway)? And 1.5 MB of storage space? I think TI has a long way to go yet, and HP is already further along with its Xpander. But what I'm wondering is why everyone's trying to turn a calculator into a computer; the College Board will eventually have them banned and we won't have ANYTHING to use on a standardized test.

Haven't you heard? HP has cancelled the xpander and has left the educational scene. They will still be selling their existing calcs, but there will be no more in the future. And in the future, the ROM upgrades and applets will be less and less until the number turns to nil.

DON'T BUY THE 83SE!! Make sure you buy a 89 for the same amount of cash. Not only is the 89 a WAY better mathamatical tool, but it can play MUCH better games! Would you like to be playing bomberman89 in FULL GRAYSCALE, Intelligent AI, and a full level set, SONIC with it's SUPER PHYSICS system, and it's parallax scrolling, or would you rather be playing little crappy games like Dodgeball, the little primitive game where you prevent the black arrorw from touching the balls?

In fairness to the 83+, though, it *does* have games like Phoenix, and uh, um, stuff.

Don't you read? There has been no official word from HP on the matter. But, it's more than likely that the rumor is true, unfortunately...

Glenn Murphy

Unfortunately, those particular games won't be playable on new TI89s (they are all Hardware 2)... </nitpick>

HP's Xpander is not a calculator but a fancy hand-held computer like Palm Pilot and based on it's specs it will cost a lot! Besides that, even HP isn't sure whether to releas it or not. Oh, one more thing, if you guys want games why don't you just buy GBA? It's sure can run much better games than TI's.

MirageOS already has the capability of slowing progies down. Just hold the [ON]key and press one of the blue graphing keys for your speed. [Y=] is slow, [ZOOM] is medium, and [GRAPH] is fast. Read the rest of your MirageOS documentation for other neat tricks!

Perhaps you don't realize how funny (or at least ironic) your comment is. Jason is one of the two co-authors of MirageOS. Thus, I don't think he has to read the manual :)

I, being the other author, can tell you that we may require an updated version of MirageOS. The problem will lie in the fast screen copy routines. The current routines go as fast as possible without overloading the display controller. The screen copy routines run at the same speed, independant of if you slow down the calculator with the tasker. If the display controller on the TI-83 Plus Silver Edition isn't updated to be as fast as the new CPU (our current guess is that it wont be), we'll need to release a new version of MirageOS. We should get that all sorted out, and release a new version of MirageOS if neccessary, by the time the calculator is available.

My Bad! I am really bad with names (or screen names, or handles, depending the site or the reality).

Sorry...no change to the LCD Driver in this edition.

I hate LCD drivers. Memory mapped LCDs are soooo much better =)

good thing i have some extra christmas money... i guess i'll have to get myself one

Well, all I can say is that the TI-86 needs more of an upgrade than a TI-83+. It looks too outdated, could have flash ROM and a faster cpu. Hmmm.. If the TI-83 plus *silver edition* is going to have a 15MHz CPU, wouldn't that drain a lot of battery power? That would mean u would have to change batteries every 2 months!

I already have to change batteries every two month, so what's your point?

Oh, I get it, now i'll have to change them weekly! :P

Well, does anyone know how much it'll cost?

TI says $30 to $35 more than an existing TI-83 Plus - so it will be somewhere in the range of $125.

TI's site says that it will be about $30-$35 more than the ordinary 83+.

$30 to $35 more than a regular TI-83 Plus. Keep in mind that it also includes a GraphLink cable and some Flash apps (that you would have to pay for otherwise) though. Of course, I'd just like it for the 1.5 megabytes of Flash space, but maybe that's just me :)

TI says about $30-$35 more than the current 83+. So probably about $125-$140.

Isn't this site cool for getting answers? You got four of them posted within a minute of each other! :-)

Seriously...I'm surprised it's not more, though.

Hmmm. Although this will never parallel or be better than the 89, i'm gonna get it anyways, cause there seem to be more progs for the 83 anyways. But remember that the 83 always shall have worse programs, this is because of it's small screen, it's small screen buffer, slow screen refresh rate, etc.