Yea! First comment! Anyway, it's for the +, so it doesn't really matter to me. But people with one might care. I just wanted the first comment!

I do have an 83+. I suppose people have already made it clear that there is a shortage of quality games for the 83+. That is probably the subliminal cause of many of the flames. I guess it's people pissed off because there aren't enough games and they want to take it out on someone. For those who own 83+'s give it time, more will come.
I don't write flames. If I have a game on my calc that crashes, it's ok, it's not like I payed for it. I respect those programmers who port games to the + and apologize for the flames they've received.

Ab

Thank you. Everybody seems to think that because there is a bug in a program, they lost a fortune. Actually, they probably just lost a few games that were free in the first place.
I agree with the thing about the shortage of games. I mean, as soon as a new calculator comes out doesn't mean ticalc.org and stuff will be flooded with games on the first day of release. Look how long it took for the archives to fill up in any calc's menu! They can't program millions of games overnight, and the thing most people don't understand is that Assembly is not an easy programming language. And nobody better reply to this saying Assembly is easy, cuz I'm gonna kick you in the ass and tell you to stop complaining and program your own phucking games. Damn I'm angry.

Ok, I think this point needs to be addressed. A programmers life is not to cater to everyone's needs and wants. I know from experience that many programmers do it for fun. Instead of bitching to them that they are not releasing enough programs, we should show our gratitude to them for releasing these programs. Ways to do this would be to send constructive criticism to the programmer regarding different bugs in his or her own programming. This would show the programmer that you respect their work, but think that a specific aspect of the program could be better.

With regards to the newbie emails, I think there is only one way to go on this subject. That is compiling a massive FAQ page on one or all of the major TI-Sites. I knowthat most sites have somewhat of an FAQ page, but not to the extent that is made blatantly obvious by the masses of emails that should be documented on an FAQ page somewhere.

I think it really sucks that Sam and Ahmed finally go pushed over the edge by this whole ordeal. They have been around the TI community much longer than I have (I have been around for about 2.5 years). I think we seriously need to reconsider programmers for what they do, and our appreciation for them. It seems that many people are taking programmers' services for granted. Allright i'll stop my rant now, email me if you want to flame me.

-Will

I know if you are worried about loosing something on your calc, back it up with a graphlink.

I have one of every type of calculator (except the TI-73 and below). I am actually trying to program some of my own games for the TI-83+. I think that your idea of a boycott was a good idea (to get the TI community to shape up). I can do some conversions for you if you tell me what to do. I will not be able to do them as fast, but I can do some for you if you want.

Finally, someone not complaining and being original. That's right, program your own games! Be original and stop complaining and expecting the impossible from people! We need more people like you.

I agree. Once I learn asm I'm doing the same thing. I already do that with BASIC.

What is the problem here?!
Another programmer went on vacation???! What the hell is everyone's grudge against Ahmed and Sam?! Why can't you all just shut the hell up and let them do their thing?! I mean, all you idiots (sorry, but now I'm pissed) with ti83+s who don't know sh|t about using files and sending and all that crap- appearently 99.9% of you have not read the damn instruction manual that came with the calc, have not visited ti.com to see how the graph-links work, and have not pestered anyone else about how they work. But NOOOOOO, you have to go and annoy the SH|T out of the better assembly programmers about "how do you send stuff to the calculator?" GET A BRAIN, and do something called RESEARCH. FIND OUT FROM OTHERS about how to do that crap. And another thing- why is everyone getting all mad because they are porting games?! What the hell is your problem?!! Just stop pestering them about "can you do this?" or "can you do that?" How do you think they became who they are? Practice. Learn Basic, master it, and move on to assembly. Make games yourself for Christ's sake! Why do you expect everything from these two people? Just look at any comment regarding a game at ticalc.org or calc.org. "Wow! Mario for the ti-83! Can they make this for 83+?" or "Wow! Tetris multiplayer super alpha beta with cheat mode! When is someone going to make this for 83+?" DO IT YOURSELF! Maybe there's a message here: they are not listening to you relentless demands. Put that in your head. Just had to throw my two cents in, because some dumbasses are pissing Ahmed and Sam off, and they have made most of the better games on the 83.

Nice touch. I think you're right on, but a little too mad about all this. In theory -- or so I've recently learned -- a crashed calculator means absolutely nothing. All you have to do to fix it is remove the AAAs and the lithium ion, let it sit overnight and presto your memory is erased, fixing the problem. It really isn't a hassle though to put the files you should have backed up to your computer via the graph link back onto your calculator now is it?

yeah! good call... I think you are waiting too long on the batts tho... mine resets the moment i pop out a AAA. I think im gunna nail the issue here... like everyone else. The problem is that people with the 83+ didnt know what they had b4 they got it... they saw their friends with an 83 and all the neat-o games and they said "HEY I WANT ONE!" so then go to the store with mom see the 83+ and think that its better... and beg em to get it for them... they take it to school the next day to get the neat-o leet games and find that none of them work! what do they do? they get mad... they ask their buddy where to get the games and the pal tells them ticalc.org. so they pop on here find a name on a lot of the ASM games for the 83/83+ and start asking them stupid questions that they dont know... I myself do not have an 83 but I am lucky enough to load games on calcs for people over weekends so i have some time to play. I was a little shocked and bummed to find that the games for the 83 didnt work on the + but it took maybe a minute to figure out why... its kinda pointless to tell the newbie anything on here cuz why would they read this? but if we all wait a bit there will be games... the only thing i ever want for every calc is Ztetris... the best tetris of all time.

I am pissed to at what those bums did. I know, I get anoyed like that all the time with stupid questons. PEOPLE READ THE INSTRUCTION BOOK.

SHUT UP! All TI83+ owners are not idiots. GO TO HELL. I for one, have learned Z80 asm 2 weeks after getting my TI-83+ and have began work porting games to Ion. Which I would gladly release both .83p and .8xp formats.

HAH! Wow, you guys are touchy.


-Vejita

I agree

Actually, I never learned much basic before asm. I found basic was too slow and not powerful enough. Not to mention it was terrible to write (I like typing a keyboard.)

I do think people shouldn't pester others to do things that are voluntary. If someone wants to do something they will. Otherwise, they won't.

I just thought I'd mention that you can type BASIC on a keyboard... and anyway, what language you should program in has more to do with what your trying to make than which one is actually better (ASM is better for games, BASIC is better for math).

Yes! Finally Zelda is in development again! Didn't a computer crash wipe out the include file?

Also, please everybody, stop the threads about 83+ lamers. We don't need 1000 posts that say "83+ sucks" or "port this dammit". Let's stop these posts first of all by not replying to this one about the TI83+ topic.

It's amazing how a bunch of lamers can almost stop a project until the author wakes up.
Great games, Sam. Great until my TI82 was stolen.

I think what went wrong is that the 83+ is basically in every one of my highschool friend's hands...everyone has them, 'cept for me and my 86 (awe yea baby!). Since they know you can put games on them, they're like raving idiots without any courtesy or respect towards the people who actually make the games. Oh well, 'tis sad because the 83+ is a fine calculator.

Yes! I totally agree!

they''re mandatory in my school for classes Geometry and up.

I've had an 86 since 6th, and an 89 since last summer

These idiots are always asking how to do this or that, and i totally agree with you

It f***ing pisses me off.

I know I know!
I used an 85 up until last year when it croaked, I then switched t the god of all calculators...the 89. But, the teachers won't allow it because everything in the book is for the 83. They also say that the 89 isn't allowed on standardized tests...uh..HELLO??!!!! DO your research folks...it is. I am no idiot, I can figure out how to do things on an 89 that the book says the 83 can do, and MUCH MUCH better in all ways. Anyway, anyone else feel the same?

BTW..
hey there Clarke? How ya doin'?

//Licorice

don't see you here often.

I agree there. Nothing wrong w/ the TI83p except that some people just don't get the way thingsa are. If you want the game and can't get it...make it. Hell, I'm tackling checkers, chess (2 player) and Tetris, with nothing to guide me. I write BASIC 'cause I can do it in class. A few people I simply won't give anything to, because they are those raving idiots. Most of the people are fine though, even if it doesn't work. In fact, several of them are writing stuff without even the manual (OK, nothing big--until the for( and similar). If you want your every whim catered to, you have to do it yourself. Also, I've noticed the 'raving idiots' tend to be the ones assuming you're always playing a game, too.