Survey posted 2001-11-04 20:32 by mha.

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i remember a time when ticalc.org (i think it was ticalc) had an archives interface similar to window's explorer. i thought that was cool. but anyway, i perfer to access the archives via http.

To be perfectly honest, the method of files transfer to my computer matters very little. What matters is that I get programs.

FTP is great for those who like to download everything at once, and http is best for those who like to go through the bunch and pick out the best. http is even more useful when you can sort by name, size (as if it matters anyway), popularity, etc... That would be really cool.

In my school, I can't access to FTP sites, so I must use http.

I still use ftp in a dos environment on a daily basis, it is just alot quicker than a gui. But for getting info on programs the gui is great.

wow... http is definately the best... unless you have a really bad computer or something... 111 days 5 hours, 12 minutes, 3 seconds... amazing. i am SO relieved that the poll crisis has ended.

Someone has a little too much time on their hands.

ok mr. "i won the under 16 APP developement contest"... (... wait... so did i...)... we all have too much time on our hands...

What's wrong with free time? Free time is the best time in the world.

Elvis has left the building

-Whatever

In freetime, make DHTML/javascript programs.

That's what I do. This is the last year tho, cuz next year I'll be in college.

Stay away from any excess java/dhtml, especially dhtml! It puts an unneeded strain on browsers. I for one love the fact that your site works in lynx. Stay AWAY from dhtml(javascript is ok). True dhtml, for those who don't know, is a website that links with a microsoft-launguage compiled dll. This slows down the browser, and requires the use of Internet Explorer. When I'm browseing in X(macOS and windoze are too slow, and crash prone) I use Opera, not IE, not windoze. Java would be neat for a logo or something, but don't turn the whole site into a java applet. The current site is great. It works fine on my awesome linux servers, my pathetic 486 thin-clients, and my dumb terminals. And ftp rules. I appreciate the http access for aol winnies and looking at screen-shots for games.

By "X", are you referring to X Windows or MacOS X (which is oh-so-much-faster than windoze and virtually crash-free)?

Speaking of which, has anyone tried windows XP?

for the topic, I like to use ftp when I can cus my school's internet access isn't that great...
otherwise http is good for choosing which programs I want.

Ofcourse it's X Windows. Opera is by far the worst browser you can find not to say you have to buy it. Concerning DHTML, it's true that not browsers use it but NS 4.7+ and IE have no trouble with it (for the most part). DHTML doesn't slow the browser much more than HTML page would, it's doesn't apply to JS though. These are cool things the WEB offers, I think everyone should use it cuz they make everything much better. Ones whow have old browsers should upgrade instead of complaining, because you can't stay with the old browser forever and have every webmaster trying to please you. Okay, that's the end of my raves and sorry if I've offended someone.

X Windows?

Anyway, anyone who has seriously tried it knows one thing - Opera rocks! The download is about 1/20 the size of IE or Netscape, it is free with adds, and finding a crack is not hard. The program loads faster, which is good because IE and Netscape are slower than molasses running uphill in January on anything more than a year old. It is also a lot more stable program.

As for DHTML - Opera has stricter support for standards than either of the two giants, plus it has minimal or no proprietary crap that makes cross-browser work so hard. This is a very good thing for anyone who really cares about how their stuff looks.

FYI Opera supports the least number of HTML tags and other internet stuff. Not to say it has the worst JS support too. If you don't believe me, take a look at any HTML or JS book or reference. I don't know why someone would use Opera if there are way better browsers such as NS and IE.

Actaully Opera supports all of the latest standards in JS, HTML, and Java. The key word there however, is "standards". Unlike NS or IE, it supports only the standards. That is something that I know most references or tutorials leave out. Those tags that are supposedly left out in Opera are all propriatary to other browsers. That means that the "extra" tags supported by IE are not the same as the ones supported by NS and are not compatible anyway. And I don't know what you mean by "other internet stuff".

That means that no one who is serious about their audience (this page for example, looks exactly the same way in NS, IE and Opera) is going to use those tags because so it will look different to so many people.

Also, if you have a slower computer, than speed is a good enough reason to use Opera - it loads in like 1/5 the time, and hogs a lot less resources. I recomend that you give it a try sometime - the download w/out Java support is also puny - 2.something MB altogether.

I hate to break it to you buddy, but DHTML (note the caps, it is an acronym) stands for Dynamic HTML and is in NO WAY directly related to MS. It, by definition, is simply the use of a scripting language (like VBscript, by MS, or more commonly Javascript, by the ECMA) and style scripts (usually CSS, by the W3C) along with HTML to do things that HTML cannot do. Opera has equal to or better support for it than IE, which has so much better support than Netscape. I love Opera and am using it right now, and I also program DHTML web pages using Javascript, HTML, and CSS.

DHTML, like anything else can be used properly and it can easily be overused. Remember the blink tag, back when Netscape was still a good browser? (I shudder a little when I think about it). Although I don't know if that really had a proper use.

A little CSS can actually make your web pages take up less space because you don't kneed to use images for complicated alignments. It also makes cross-browser programing a bit easier because the CSS commands are more specific and are interpreted stricter by browsers with support. (no more messing around with tables that look different in every browser!). Javascript also immensly speeds up simple form-checks like "did he type a valid password?" by not have to send the info to the server before checking it.

As a side point to clear things up - Java and Javascript are two completely different things that are almost completely unrelated. Java is the best all purpose Object-Oriented cross-platform compiled programming language from Sun Microsystems. Javascript is a relatively simple scripting language for browsers that is technically not Object-Oriented. It was originally introduced by Netscape and was named something else, but they renamed it Javascript when Java really began catching on. Now the name continues to confuse people, and the standards are controlled by the ECMA.

Actually, Java is interpreted and that's why it's portable. It can be compiled as well(Perl could be compiled too).

Well, technically it is compiled into "bytecode" which is then interpreted. But since the bytecode (in the current version) performs so closely to actaul compiled binary, on any new computer you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

I once ate a hot-dog

Nah, build realistic reacting 3D worlds in your free time, that something to do...

Yeah, that's cool but not an easy thing either. It requires a lot of knowledge and experience. BTW, what program are you using to build your worlds?

What exactly do you mean by building 3D realistic worlds? As in building a huge model of a world in something say Lightwave or 3D max, then adding in programed entities, or am I completely off the subject? :o)
(me's un artist des graphic)

Dunno, Lightwave, 3DsMax or Autocad would do a great job. They're very hard to learn and get used to though (at least for me).