Survey posted 1999-09-17 05:50 by Andy.

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If payment for programs becomes necessary, say hello to TI-WAREZ, but software APPS on the TI83+ are a different thing though.

Are they talking only about software that run on the calculator or does the survey include PC calculator apps (like GraphLink)? The distinction must be made; they are totally different things.

REALLY, WOULD ANYONE PAY FOR TI SOFTWARE? UNLESS IT WAS A UPGRADE OR SOMETHING DIRECT FROM TI.

Yes, if the software is cheap($7 - $15 ) and GOOD I will most definatly pay for it, but anything more expensive and with bad quality I wouldn't pay for and rather warez. A $15 price tag will y MAKE me buy EE PRO for example. However, the outrages $50 is way too much.

I don't think I would pay for games or stuff like that. But I think it would be kind of fair if the people programming the Shells (e.g. Usgard), or high quality complex programs would get some money out of it. It's more a question of loyalty and interest than really money though. In my humble opinion, there's no way to get the big bucks out of making calculator software...

Especially when people do it for fun and not for profit.

exactly.

Yes, exactly... I made TI-FLEX SE 2000 (an operating system for TI-82) and I spent a lot of time to do it. So, I'm very proud of it and I want that many people can try it. It's not a good idea to sell the products if we want people opinion about these.

(sorry for my poor english...)

i would never pay for a calc app, at all for one good reason when i got my ti, i got it for math.. then i saw that there were games and programs.. and they are free so i got them.. the programs are for fun entertainment, thats about all i would never pay for it.. i would expect to buy a calc that had all the software/apps that are needed for math... a calc is different then a computer... it has built in software, there for i would never buy software i expect it to be in the calc or be for free... on the other hand PC's dont have built in stuff you buy and pick out stuff... a big difference...
i cant even start to think that calc games/apps would cost money..

People only pay from $50 to $200 for these calculators. Purchasing EE PRO at $50 is 1/3 the price of the device running, and I know that that can be hard when you can get another calculaor for just $20-$30 more. It seems hard to justify that type of money for a calculator program. Many excellent, free programs are available from the TI Calc Archives, but I can see asking for a $7-$15 shareware fee for all of the effort of programming.

By "Calculator Software" are you talking about Applications produced by Texas Instruments or other developers, or TI-81 RPGs made by someone named Joe who asked in the readme to send him $1?

Any kind of software. This is general to all those cases.

Well I think there's quite a difference between professional companies producing quality software and some 7th grade trying to make money on his BASIC guessing game.

I agree - I think the question's wording is vague.

I beleive that is why there is a specific option for "Yes, if it was of high quality". That should filter out the guessing games...
It is quite possible for a person to produce something just as professional and high quality as a company. And then there really is no need to make a distinction, right? You wouldn't pay for the companys product but not for the private persons product, if they are just as good. Who makes it does not matter - the quality does. At least to me.

there is still a difference between a privte person with good quality and a company... i mean company has or guarentee's at least updates and other support stuff.. while a person can just run a scam and your out of luck.. a difference i think??
there have to be standards rules, terms, garentees... stuff like that..

Sure, I would pay for software. It would have to be extreamy high quality and spacific to a task and well supported. For instace I would pay well for software that allowed my to read and write to a Parralax Stamp or Stamp II using my 86. There is existing software of course but it depends on Win or Dos. I would rather carry my 86 around in my pocket than the 7 lb so called "portable" in a breafcase that i have now. Another app? How about talking to an Allen Bradly SLC? these programs would be worth large money to those of us who use these controlers.

I think that the company makes plenty of money as is. We pay alot for the calcualtors. However, I do not mind paying for OS upgrades form the company. Games are for a little fun during down time, and I doubt many people would dish out a few hundred dollars for games, unless they were INCREDIBLY good, lik ecommand and conquer, or descent, with real 3D graphics.

if i was gonna spend money on calculator software, i'd rather buy a computer software and enjoy on the big screen.

Good point. You can only get so good a game on a 3" B/W screen.

If one has to pay for software and games, then the TI gaming community will inevitably disappear. So I think it will never happen. only a few will be willing to pay for one game and the programmer will not make any money. I think recognition for programming a game is reward enough.

I agree that the Ti community would dissapear. it would also lead to people pirating programs and possibly copyright infringment. It would all become a big mess that I don't think anyone wants to start or get involved in. That's my 2 cents worth.

I also agree that the ti community would disappear. I also agree that credit for creating programs is reward enough. The ti was created to benefit its users by giving them the option to create programs to fufill their needs of work and play.

These programmers should use the calculator's programming capibility as a way to practice or learn programming, so they can get better and better at programming, because for one thing, programming comes from practicing.

I Know how to make your calc in full color instantly!

Just press on the screen really hard with your finger until the LCD turns funky colors! Voila! Color games!

But you usually cant bring a computer to Trig class

No, but I have brought my uncle's Velo500 to school and played DoomCE w/o getting caught.

For those who wonder what a 'Velo500' is, I suggest the site:
http://www.velo.philips.com/

And I will find the DoomCE site if you give me a chance. For those too eager to wait, goto:
http://www.jimmy.com/

-Miles Raymond

what the hell does that have to do with this discussion? The topic is "would you pay for TI software?" not "please advertise whatever you want to".

Give him a break.