Survey posted 2000-06-28 04:24 by Andy.

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Finally, I had a good idea for a survey!

Well, I HONESTLY have to say I have never lied on ANY of the polls...=P

I think I might have marked a funny answer once or twice, but oh well...they usually apply to me also! =P

Also, if you people are trying to click my site link, well, it isn't up yet. I still have to buy the domain name, and the server space! =P

-Brian
blackknight34@hotmail.com

I never lie on them, well once, but my answer wasn't a choice!!!!!!!

Me? Lie? You must be kidding...

ya what were they thinking Me?? Lie???

everybody knowes that:
My name is: Bill Gates
and that im am the bets looking guy in the World!!

LOL. That somehow fits together pretty well, doesn't it. ;-)

Ha! Ha! Gates Rules :) I've never lied on survay, though :) w00t!

Heh. Think about this for a second. This survey has no chance of being right. At least some of it. If a person lies on all of TICALC surveys, then they would mark "Never" on this one, when actually it should be "All the Time". Also, there are those that "Sometimes Lie to be Funny", and they are marking "All The Time" just to be funny. Since I have first post, and there is only like 4 votes, I'll have to wait to see how this turns out....

when I came up with this survey, I figured it would give people a chance to be honest, although it wasn't meant that seriously.

What kind of email address is that?!

Oh yea, btw, why do people always note first post? When they say it, it is invariably 96.546% wrong.

-Corey

You are travelling to a village of truthful indians. You come to a fork in the road. One indian that always lies and one indian that always tells the truth is there. You can ask each only one yes-or-no question (Doesn't have to be the same question.) How do you find which road to take?

Solution later.

This is like the poll!

"The Labrynth", anyone? heh

Ask either indian what the other one would tell you is the way to the indian village, and go the opposite road from what the indian says. If you ask the truth-telling Indian he will tell you the wrong way, since the lie-telling indian would ALSO tell you the wrong way. Either way you will find out the wrong path to take, and you can take the correct one with that knowledge.

I think I explained this one right. It may sound bad, though. My teacher can do a better job. ;)

P.S.
yes or no question:
"Would the other guy tell me to take this road?"
*points to one road*

Yeah, basically that's right. You do have to change it to a yes or no question as comment above states. I got this problem in my Algebra 2 class. This is basically how it goes.

Now let's see you use the same logic to find out the truthful results of the poll!

That's far too complicated. Ask one Indian "Does one plus one equal two?" or some other question with an answer that you know, and then ask the other Indian if a certain road is the right one to take.

Only one question is allowed, right?

One per indian.

See, I already knew the joke, but the way you need to say,"Where is the way to the truth-telling village", because the way I heard it there were 2 villages, one that is all-true, and one that is all-lie.

Here's another one- You decide to join the "luncheon Club" (I know, its a really bad name for a club) and each member is either a truther, who always tells the truth, or a liar, who always lies (duh). Everyone is seated around a large, round table. There's no way to tell if a person is a liar or a truther by looking at them, so you ask,"Are you a liar?" Everyone assures you that they are a truther. You slap yourself on the head and think,"Well, that's what they would say either way." You then ask them if the person on their left is a truther, and to your suprise they all so they are liars.
Later, you realized you forgot to count the number of people at the luncheon, so you phone the club's president. He tells you there were 37 people present. You then realize that he might be a liar, so you call the secretary.
"I'm sorry, but I'm afraid our president is a liar. There were actually 40 people today.
Which person should you believe?

It's actually quite easy, but I will let you figure it out yourself.

for the sake of those of us who only post after 2am, please post the answer in a day or two at most

You have said this joke so many times, that it's not even funny, it is so dependant of previous parts of the speech, some cancel each other out, others contridict each other. Kinda like saying:

I haven't heard that the peopele of springfield have no faith. Were they not right? Was I not misimformed?

10 minutes later, the audience comes up with the answer of no.

I do believe that you believe the secretary, assuming the 40 count included yourself when you went there.

Think about it. It must go everyother one:
truth says left is lier, so he is, next, lie says truth is lier. It goes everyother one, and it wouldn't work if there were an odd number of people.

Yep! That's absolutely right!
BTW, AuroraBoriales, the Simpsons thing makes no sense at all.

You ask the first guy if Road number 1 is the road the liar would tell you to take. Assuming he is not the liar and he says yes, then you take Road 2 since he might not be the liar. Then you ask the second guy if Road 1 is the road the liar would tell you to take. If he says yes it is, then you know you're talking to the liar. This is one of those things you can't explain. There are many different things you can do. I have a nonreasoning idea. You cut the balls off the first guy, if he squirms he is the liar because true Indians except pain and are not liars. Then you ask the other guy which road to take and presto, you are at the house of nudes.

You only need one four-word question, which can be directed at either indian:

"Where are you from?"

Obviously they'll both point to the truth-telling village.

Never thought of that. Would be much easier, but would not work really. The liar could point back down the road from whence you came He just can't point to his home. For that matter, I never said the truth indian was from the truth village, did I?

Oh, yeah, and didn't I say yes or no questions? I'm making it hard, and you guys are breaking rules to find easy ways!

An explorer stumbles across a village in the middle of a jungle, and is captured by it's inhabitants, who decide to kill him. However, they like logic, so they give the explorer a choice: he must make a statement, and if he tells them the truth, they boil him, and if what he says is false, they burn him. What does the explorer say?

My guess would be to say "You will burn me." Then if they boiled him it would be false, so they should burn him. If they burn him it will be true so they should boil him. No way for it to be true or false and still be true or false, so the indians would have to let him go, right?

Correct (Sorry for taking so long to reply :) )

This reminds me of a paradox, where you ask a person:
Do you always lie? If they say yes, then they are lieing right now, so that means that they are not lieing?

This reminds me of a paradox, where you ask a person:
Do you always lie? If they say yes, then they are lieing right now, so that means that they are not lieing?
Another example of the ambigouous case.