Survey posted 2006-08-11 04:02 by Jon.

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Many apologies for the delay in getting this survey out (I tried to compensate by making lots of choices!). I have been both caught up with work and having the power supply to my laptop die, but I will be updating the surveys on a regular basis now.

Enjoy, and please keep sending suggestions!

Have you gotten any of my emails? I sent a bunch of ideas.

Yeah, I sent one also.

I did; there are plenty of weeks left for surveys :)

well why do you don't put an category of mixed languages as there are other's like me that program either in low either in hight i only use low when i knoe that some parts of the code may get improved if you use assembler directly....

"Neither, I like using both as needed" fits that pretty well.

when i said mixed i was referring coding C and assembler in the same program...

That's still using one or the other as needed, even if it's in the same program.

What about polyglots? :)

I think that qualifies as "Neither, I like using both as needed".

Incredible, I'm never in the first 10 posts...

now that that's off my chest, I'm glad to see a new survey. I've only ever programmed in C++, HTML, and TI-Basic.

I wanted the choice "High-level, but I want to learn a low-level."

I simply don't have the time to get into 68k assembly or even TIGCC, not that I know enough C for the latter.

Same here; I've got a pretty good knowledge of programming in C for TIGCC, but I'd like to learn assembly, but I can never get around to it. There are advantages to both types of languages, High-level being easier for newbies to learn, (generally) faster programming, while with Asm, there is a speed boost, and much more control.

I'd really like to learn Asm also, but I don't have the time :(

I think I could find the time but I just can't find a use -- I don't do much calc programming anymore

I also want to learn Asm; but i can't figure out even the basics because some tutorials use some headers; some compilers use other headers; and there are a bunch of different commands for the same thing... according to the compiler and the shell... uuhh

A bunch of commands for the same thing? Not really...you just need to find a good tutorial and stick with it. Good luck!

No offense, but I still don't know ANYTHING about ASM!!!!!!!!

Uh, what does that have to do with what we were talking about?

He doesn't know what you mean.

But I wasn't talking to him...I'm confused.

....But he was still reading.

Using modern computers and compilers, low-level languages don't have that speed boost advantage anymore. Higher level languages are really better than lower level. Especially with languages like C++ that allow you to do both lower and higher level stuff. Higher level languages are used much more than lower level languages. They're good for everyone from newbies to programming to big corporations.

There's always going to be a speed advantage in using low-level languages. With a faster computer it won't make as much of a difference as it did back in the days of FORTRAN, but it's still there.

But the speed advantage isn't so great that game programmers would spend way more time and money on low level assembly.

I definitely agree there, I'm just saying there always is a speed difference even if it's not that noticable.

Actually, if the mind is at most Turing-equivalent, the difference could in principle be eliminated. If it is super-Turing, though, then programmers will always have the last laugh...erm...picosecond.

what is TIGCC and where do you get it?????

It's a C compiler for the 68k calcs, and I'm pretty sure you can get it from the archives here.