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Choice Votes   Percent
FlashZ BomberMan 12 7.9%   
gb68k 39 25.7%   
Kirby's Quest 12 7.9%   
M4r10 23 15.1%   
Platinum Edition for TI-92 10 6.6%   
PowerComPress 13 8.6%   
Sumo Wrestling 9 5.9%   
TEXAS Fighters 9 5.9%   
I have no opinion 25 16.4%   

Survey posted 2005-12-19 21:48 by Jon.

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Re: Favorite TI-89/TI-92/TI-92+/v200 Program for 2005 (Final Round)?
JcN  Account Info
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PowerComPress (still)

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 05:54 GMT


Re: Re: Favorite TI-89/TI-92/TI-92+/v200 Program for 2005 (Final Round)?
Greg M Account Info

Yes. Before PCP, my catalog took 7 seconds to load (I timed it with a stopwatch). Because I was able to use PCP to compress away a few of the larger packages that I didn't use on a daily basis (anageom, multivariable folder, FDI, etc), I was able to reduce catalog load time down to a more reasonable 2-3 seconds. I also benefited from the extra memory, both ram (VAT entries?), and from archive (Because it compresses).

Great piece of software!

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 11:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Favorite TI-89/TI-92/TI-92+/v200 Program for 2005 (Final Round)?
saubue  Account Info
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Thank you very much!

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 16:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Favorite TI-89/TI-92/TI-92+/v200 Program for 2005 (Final Round)?
Ranman  Account Info

Very useful utility! With a very nice and professional looking graphical interface.

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 16:36 GMT

Re: Favorite TI-89/TI-92/TI-92+/v200 Program for 2005 (Final Round)?
redsoxfan  Account Info
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I wish grav was in there

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 12:19 GMT


Re: Re: Favorite TI-89/TI-92/TI-92+/v200 Program for 2005 (Final Round)?
RJ Larimore  Account Info
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ya, grav pwns all.

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 17:46 GMT

M4r10
Denial  Account Info

M4r10. Everyone knows it is the best. Denying the fact that you're addicted to it shouldn't mean that you don't vote for it. Graphics, gameplay, replayability, stability, this game has it all. You know it. Vote what you know.

Sumo wrestling: Unstable

GB68K: Can't play most popular games.

TEXAS fighters: Unfinished, low replayability

FlashZ Bomberman: Utterly unoriginal

PowerComPress: Uninteresting technical achievement

Platinum Edition for TI-92: A centuries old game that has already hogged the limelight

M4r10 has none of these problems. Vote for the best program of the year!

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 18:03 GMT

Re: M4r10
RJ Larimore  Account Info
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for me sumo isnt unstable AT ALL, and M4r10 is REALLY unstable. i had to patch it with ghostbuster for my titanium even though it said it was comatible and even then it still freezes my calc. if this problem was fixed then MAYBE it would have a chance against the alimighty sumo, but thats still a maybe.

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 18:26 GMT


Re: Re: M4r10
JfG  Account Info
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That was the first version. The current version should be working perfectly.

I guess I shouldn't have uploaded an early and unstable version.

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 19:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: M4r10
RJ Larimore  Account Info
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ya im using the new version. itll work fine for a while, then sometimes it will freeze during the game, and other times it will freeze after i play the game and try to turn off the calc. the new version isnt as buggy as the first one was for me tho.

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 20:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
JfG  Account Info
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Okay. I'll investigate.

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 23:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
JfG  Account Info
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Didn't find anything, it works perfectly well for me.
Too bad :(

Reply to this comment    23 December 2005, 10:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
RJ Larimore  Account Info
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ya, too bad for me. ill never enjoy playing m4r10 without my calc freezing. sux 4 me :(

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 03:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Denial  Account Info

What AMS version do you have installed? What TSR's do you have installed? Have you tried it with M4r10's files being the only thing on the calculator? Have you tried playing M4r10 after a fresh reset? How about after clearing the RAM&archive memory?

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 04:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Ranman  Account Info

All good questions to ask.

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 19:15 GMT

Re: M4r10
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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My take on that:

> M4r10.
JfG won last year, do you really want him to win AGAIN?

> Sumo wrestling: Unstable
Not for me. I think it's the best game to pick.

> GB68K: Can't play most popular games.
You must have tested an old version. The best non-game to pick. Too bad (and that's really its only weakness) there are legal issues with most Game Boy ROMs (there are only a few high-quality freeware ROMs, Sqrxz for example).

> TEXAS fighters: Unfinished, low replayability
I agree.

> FlashZ Bomberman: Utterly unoriginal
I agree. The nth Bomberman clone won last year, now we have the (n+1)st.

> PowerComPress: Uninteresting technical achievement
I must say I agree. Nothing against saubue, but it isn't what I'd give a POTY to.

> Platinum Edition for TI-92: A centuries old game that has already hogged the limelight
That's a funny way to say it, but I agree.

> M4r10 has none of these problems. Vote for the best program of the year!
:s/M4r10/Sumo Wrestling/g :p
I didn't test it myself yet, but judging from the other reply you got, M4r10 is probably the more unstable of the 2, so accusing Sumo Wrestling of being unstable is just unfair.

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 18:42 GMT

Re: Re: M4r10
Denial  Account Info

>> M4r10.
>JfG won last year, do you really want him to win AGAIN?

We are voting for programs, not authors. That is irrelevant.

>I didn't test it myself yet, but judging from the other reply you got, M4r10 is probably the more unstable of the 2, so accusing Sumo Wrestling of being unstable is just unfair.

If we judge stability by number of replies on ticalc.org, as you seem to, then they are equally stable.

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 19:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Num Account Info

Wow, this is really competitive. besides,

>> M4r10.
>JfG won last year, do you really want him to win AGAIN?

What kind of comeback is that?
Look, the're just programs for calculators. I say we should give thanks to the authors who spend months working on these programs.

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 02:10 GMT


Re: Re: M4r10
JfG  Account Info
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>JfG won last year, do you really want him to win AGAIN?

yes?

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 22:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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LOL

Reply to this comment    22 December 2005, 18:45 GMT

Re: M4r10
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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Oh, and you also forgot krodakus's Kirby. What's your beef with that?

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 18:43 GMT


Re: Re: M4r10
Ranman  Account Info

Too bad for Astrosmash... Although not technically advanced, it is a very fun and addicting game. It is bug free as far as I can tell or from what I have heard. I guess sticking with the original 1981 graphics was a bad choice...

NOT! I love those old graphics ;-)

Good luck to the remaining contestants! I'll try again next year.

Reply to this comment    20 December 2005, 20:57 GMT

Re: Re: Re: M4r10
saubue  Account Info
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Indeed, it is a very good game that makes lots of fun. Maybe it would have made it to the finals if it would start with a letter that comes after 'M'

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 17:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
majykbob  Account Info

that game ROCKED! actually I have all of these games on my '89 and this is the one I play the most

Reply to this comment    22 December 2005, 02:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Coolv  Account Info
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You should really make a v200/92+ version.

Reply to this comment    22 December 2005, 03:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Ranman  Account Info

I guess I could do that... You are the first to request it ;)

Reply to this comment    22 December 2005, 04:29 GMT

Re: M4r10
JcN  Account Info
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>PowerComPress: Uninteresting technical achievement

You aren't a power user, are you? ;)

IMHO, while the nominated games are VERY impressive, I find that a powerful utility deserves more merit in most cases--while games are entertaining, they don't do much to expand the technical capabilities of calculators.

But then again, maybe I shouldn't talk--the only programs I wrote that were nominated for POTY were games! I stand by my vote, though...

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 05:53 GMT

Re: Re: M4r10
jesse frey  Account Info

maybe just a titanium user. I never find my self running out of space.

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 09:23 GMT


Re: Re: M4r10
Denial  Account Info

KOMP, shrnklib, ziplib, pepzip, xPak, zipfile, and I'm sure I missed some. A powerful utility it may be, but it sure isn't new, and it sure doesn't offer much innovation over some of the ones I listed above, specifically KOMP xPak and pepzip. The author himself has said that the compression has a worse ratio than Pepzip, but is faster to compress and decompress.

I have nothing against Saubue, and I think he did a fine job with this program. I do not, however, think it was innovative or any particular improvement over the previous generation.

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 12:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: M4r10
saubue  Account Info
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- better compression ratio than KOMP.
- not command-line-only like pepzip
- support for GroupFiles (splitting, extracting single files etc.)
- file browser for easy managing of GroupFiles
- additional options like deleting the original files
...

I think that PowerComPress is innovative, although the idea of compressing files to save space is very old.

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 14:42 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Denial  Account Info

- not command-line-only like pepzip
- file browser for easy managing of GroupFiles

Doesn't a GUI completely go against the purpose of a compression program? It wastes space, where the entire point of compression is to save space. It is really not that difficult to type in the name of whatever you want to compress.

- additional options like deleting the original files

A BASIC program could do this very easily if someone was really that lazy.

- better compression ratio than KOMP.

Good job :-)

- support for GroupFiles (splitting, extracting single files etc.)

I agree that this is nice feature, but it was already accomplished in FLib (perhaps not some of these more obscure features with GroupFiles, but what is the point of grouping together files which do not belong together? Isn't the point of grouping files to keep large BASIC programs with many seperate files as one big file?)

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 15:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
saubue  Account Info
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Doesn't a GUI completely go against the purpose of a compression program?

Of course, the GUI makes the program larger. But what about compression programs on the PC (WinRAR, WinZip etc.)? They have a GUI, and I it is useful.

I agree that this is nice feature, but it was already accomplished in FLib

Yes, but you have to group them first and then compress them (or the other way round)

but what is the point of grouping together files which do not belong together?

I don't see your point. The user can freely choose what files he wants to add.
Let me give a short example: Let's say that a user has got a folder where he stores all his study-cards for the corresponding Flash-App by TI, but he doesn't need them all the time. With PowerComPress, he can easily compress this folder into a single GroupFile and automatically delete the original cards. If he wants to use them, he just decompresses the group and he can use them again. Unlike command-line-programs like pepzip, the decompressed files will have the original name and location after decompressing.

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 17:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Ranman  Account Info

I think Saubue took an old idea and truely innovated it! I am glad to see PowerComPress in the finals!

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 17:10 GMT


Re: M4r10
jesse frey  Account Info

M4r10 has gameplay and replayability? it seemed to me to be the same thing over and over, I was soon bord whith it.

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 09:31 GMT


Re: Re: M4r10
JfG  Account Info
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Some games are very addictive even though they are repetitive (tetris?). I hope this is the case for M4r10.

Personally, I think M4r10 is the best game I made because it requires lot's of improvisation as well as lot's of skill. Dodging an icicle and a turtle by a pixel while jumping from a frozen plateform to hit a fireball is very enjoyable ;-)
Unfortunatelly, you need to be pretty good to even begin to appreciate the game.

But I am not criticizing your post since you said "I think that this game is..." instead of "This game is...", and I perfectly well understand that people have different tastes.

Reply to this comment    21 December 2005, 22:02 GMT

Re: Re: Re: M4r10
jesse frey  Account Info

>Unfortunatelly, you need to be pretty good to even begin to appreciate the game.
this could be the problem also I could have had a poor understanding of how to play.

Reply to this comment    22 December 2005, 18:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: M4r10
RJ Larimore  Account Info
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you also might think its the best game because you made it. o_0

Reply to this comment    22 December 2005, 19:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Denial  Account Info

Please finish reading his post correctly before you start thinking of your clever comeback.

He said "I think M4r10 is the best game I made", not "I think M4r10 is the best game EVAR IN TEH WH0L3 WYRLD".

Reply to this comment    22 December 2005, 21:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
RJ Larimore  Account Info
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mah bad mah bad, i read the whole post i just "misread" it. theres a difference

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 03:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Denial  Account Info

Yes, there is a difference, that's why I said "finish reading his post correctly" and not just "finish reading his post". You really didn't score well in reading comprehension in school, did you?

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 04:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Ranman  Account Info

He apologized... The continued insult is not necessary.

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 14:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Denial  Account Info

When people make up "bug reports" right at the time of the POTY, without reporting them before, and without providing any information whatsoever other than "It freezes!", an insult is always necessary. Besides, he continued to insist that I was wrong with his "theres a difference" comment.

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 15:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Ranman  Account Info

Maybe we need to have a "Bug Reporting Lesson".

- What version of the program are you using?
- Describe the bug.
- Is the bug repeatable? When? How?
- What AMS are you using?
- What hardware version are you using?
- How much free RAM do you have?
- How much free FLASH do you have?
- What other programs do you have installed?
- Do you have any TSRs defined?

For more advanced testers, I would also want to know the largest block of free RAM.

Did I miss anything?

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 16:20 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Denial  Account Info

This is a great idea. Good work!

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 16:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: M4r10
Denial  Account Info

It probably falls under "- What other programs do you have installed?", but it might be nice to specifically answer "- What Flash Applications do you have installed?" also.

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 16:50 GMT


Re: M4r10
Ranman  Account Info

Agreed... More detail is always better.

Reply to this comment    24 December 2005, 19:12 GMT

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