Survey posted 2003-03-11 22:03 by Henrik.

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Pi is yummy to eat. Otherwise, this is kinda more of a test of knowledge, not a survey. Surveys are meant to gain public opinion, unless people think pi is completely useless, then they could vote for 0.

That would be pie.

Most Mathematicians think that the formula for the area of a circle is "Pi R squared," but I think the real formula is "Pi R round." Who else agrees with me?

I've never seen a square pi...

LOL, I get it, that's good :) Never heard that one before :)

That is stupid, iditotic, and an insult to mathematics, as well as the greatest minds of all time, from Archimedes to Euler to Newton to the Chundovsky brothers.
I take extreme offense at the blatant disrespect you show in this comment, which is ignorant and juvenille. You are certainly not worthy of owning a TI calculator, or any other.
Pi is sacred, a constant which is build into geometry itself, as well as statistics and Euler's formula (if you are not familiar with Euler's formula, you should learn not to advance opinions on things which you obviously do not understand.)
Pi is an essential part of Trigonometry, governing the relationship between angle measure and arc measure.
The greatest minds in the history of mathematics have devoted a monumental effort towards the calculation and elucidation of the pi, proving first its irrationality, and then the fact that pi is not even an algebraic number.
Disrespecting a formula which is one of the most cherished in all of geometry, from elementary school on up, should certainly be a capital crime.
With National Pi Day just this coming friday (3/14), I think that you should spend the day apologizing for your incompetence and learning to respect this mythical and revered number.
To begin your journey, I have provided a link to the website of the book The Joy of Pi, by David Blatner, which includes links to other informative sites.
I hope you learn the error in your ways, and repent before the sacred holiday this friday.

You have just made my day. You are also now on the "Top 10 Funniest People of All Time" list. Thanks! I needed a good laugh.

LOL!

I guess I'm the only nerd here.
Shame on you all!

ummm...could you tell me WHERE in there did I make fun of Pi...I made fun of the formula ONLY...and yes, I DO know what Euler's Method is.

(sigh) you only further reveal your ignorance.
While being familiar with Euler's Method is... uh... good(read:useless), I was referring to Euler's FORMULA, linking the five most beautiful concepts in mathematics:
e^(i*pi)+1=0

In response to the more important point you advance:
>>"could you tell me WHERE in there did I make fun of Pi...I made fun of the formula ONLY"
You disrespect pi, first, by linking it to a terrible food, and creating a pun (the horror!) linking it to a physical characteristic of pie.
While this is a terrible crime in itself, you go further to disrespect the work of Euclid, Archimedes, and all of the brilliant mathematicians before and since (of which, obviously, you are not one). You insult all of geometry, algebra, trigonometry, and mathematics in general...
AND YOU DO IT MERELY DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF CELEBRATION OF THE WORLD'S GREATEST CONCEPT!

wow, you are a huge nerd...

but then again, Im not a big pie day fan...

What's wrong with pie?

I bet I know more pi than you!!!! :-þ

Mmmm - steak and kidney

I would NEVER insult the great no_one_2000.
The fact that i am an eighth-grader in AP Calculus BC tends to make me overconfident of myself.
I am sure that you are familiar with the Gregory-Leibniz series, which states that Pi/4=1-1/3+1/5-1/7+1/9-1/11+1 /13-1/15+..., as well as the refinement of said theory, stating that Pi/4=4arctan(1/5)-arctan(1/239)= 4SIGMA((.2^(2n+1))/(2n+1),n,0,Infinity) -SIGMA(((1/239)^(2n+1))/(2n+1), n,0,Infinity).
I am sure you are familiar with names such as Cauchy and Riemann.
I am sure you have memorized many more digits than the 65 i have.
Of course, there is no way to know that i am not simply copying this out of a math book, so i guess you'll have to take my word for it.
I am also sure that you won't believe that i am an eigth-grader in Calc, but there is no way to prove that, either.
Oh well.
None of this matters, in light of the sacred holiday almost upon us.
I am sure that we can all conclude that Pi is the only thing that matters anymore.
I apologize for drawing out a conflict from no_one_2000, who is one of the revered TI forum inner circle.

I believe your an eighth grader in AP calc (that's scary, but I still believe you)... I'm in 9th and I'm in Honors Alg, but hey :) I've seen the first formula plenty of times before and I've seen the others, but never really thought about them. I memorized about 120 (I need a life) and I'm trying to get as high as I can before tomorrow. Hey... in your biography, it says you're in 7th grade and in AP calc. Are you in a class with a lot of older kids?

I just looked at my biography:
what was i thinking when i wrote that?

Congrats on having a good math mind. I know hw it is to an extent since I took Calc AB when I was in 9th. As you said it can make you overconfident. Welcome to the club of people who should not be in higher level math at such a young age...compared to most people.

I bet you do...but I made your Memorize Pi 89 program better! so HAH! lol j/k check it out though...I added another feature....

I also used to have most of the old DOS ASCII chart memorized.

I still do, though. If you do text manipulation a lot on your calc, the lower 128 characters are the same. ANSI could never get everyone to agree on those other ones anyway....

That disturbed me greatly... :) I KNOW 105 DIGITS!!! w00t!!!!!!!!

I have the first 25,000 digits of pi!

But you didn't memorize them ;) If you go to that link mentioned above, it has what seems like endless digits (I had to close the browser window becuase after about 10 minutes of loading the page, I figured it wouldn't end on my slow 56K dial-up connection). Has anybody ever been to that page and have it completely load? Do you think all those digits are correct?

Funny thing is, I don't think anyone here really could know. I could write a program that spit out a string "3.14159265" and after that a huge string of random digits, and so very few of you would be able to tell.

log of 3 base 2 or log(3)/log(2)
2593/1636

No_one could tell, like you said. ;)

Why don't we start a discussion on phi, as well? It's quite underdiscussed. Or e? i?

HOW SHALL WE LIVE?

Dag, you're an ass, man...

for your sake, and for the sake of all humanity, I seriously hope you were trying to be ironic and humorous. otherwise, may God have mercy on your soul.

Yes, I believe He does.

And I thought *I* was odd...

LOL!

Did anyone else notice that this survey
was...SOMEHOW...posted after all these replies? look
at the time here and ^^^ up there ^^^

They use GMT time... if that solved the question... probably not. :)

START MEMORIZING DIGITS!

That survey is good, I'm going to try that on my friends ;-) They'd probably all say 3.14

no_one, have you ever seen or heard of a particular book called "The Joy of Pi"? It covers the history of pi, fomrulae for calculating pi, the origin of the use of pi, and the first 10,000 digits.

3 . 1 4 1 5 9 2 6 5 3 5 8 9 7 9 3 2 3 8 4 6 2 6 4 3 3 8 3 2 7 9 5 0 2 8 8 4 1 9 7 1 6 9 3 9 9 3 7 5 1 0 5 8 2 0 9 7 4 9 4 4 5 9 2 3 0 7 8 1 6 4 0 6 2 8 6 2 0 8 9 9 8 6 2 8 0 3 4 8 2 5 3 4 2 1 1 7 0 6 7 9 8 2 1 4 8 0 8 6 5 1 3 2 8 2 3 0 6 6 4 7 0 9 3 8 4 4 6 0 9 5 5 0 5 8 2 2 3 1 7 2 5 3 5 9 4 0 8 1 2 8 4 8 1 1 1 7 4 5 0 2 8 4 1 0 2 7 0 7 9 3 8 5 2 1 1 0 5 5 5 9 6 4 4 6 2 2 9 4 8 9 5 4 9 3 0 3 8 1 9 6 4 4 2 8 8 1 0 9 7 5 6 6 5 9 3 3 4 4 6 1 2 8 4 7 5 6 4 8 2 3 3 7 8 6 7 8 3 1 6 5 2 7 1 2 0 1 9 0 9 1 4 5 6 4 8 5 6 6 9 2 3 4 6 0 3 4 8 6 1 0 4 5 4 3 2 6 6 4 8 2 1 3 3 9 3 6 0 7 2 6 0 2 4 9 1 4 1 2 7

whew! the first 300 digits of pi, right from the book.

In other words, -i(ln -1) = pi, or e^(pi * 1i) = -1

00ps (darn cold virus!)

That last formula is supposed to be e^(-Pi * 1i) = -1

Check the link for more pi, if you need it that much. Or this one:
ftp://sailor.gutenberg.org/pub/ gutenberg/etext93/pimil10.txt
without the spaces, of course

just eat 3.14152653589... pies

http://3.1415926
5358979323846264
3383279502884197
1693993751058209
.maxg.org/pi

That's a LOT of pi!

you posted that url before. Will the page ever finish loading?

I don't think it does. I spent about 10 minutes on a 56k modem and it was still loading. I think they used PHP to do that.

At home I have a 56.6 too but I'm usually online at school, a T1! I hink the uncompressed file is about 200MB

Hey! I know that book, I don't have it, but I've heard of it! The site... www.joyofpi.com has 10,000 digits there (webpage link). I heard the book had 1,000,000 in it... but I could be wrong.

I printed out the first 10,000 digits on a piece of paper in 5pt font and I've been studying it for 3/14 1:59 :) Yay!

You are correct, no_one. The book DOES have the first 1*10^6 digits of pi. The 1*10^6 digit is 1.

Yep! If you download the pi memorization game for the TI-89 that I uploaded a few minutes ago, you can get the first 200 (but that doesn't compare to 10^6 digits).

Even in GMT, the time stamp of the survey post is after all the comments... weird.

Eh. No.

uh...yeah...look at the time stamp on the first post...then look at the time stamp on the survey post...survey posted AFTER first post...see???

The stamp on the Survey is GMT +1, thus in Universal Time it would be 21:03, thus before all the comments

Hm... I thought if it was +1, to put it back to GMT, you'd subtract one. Oh well

It looks right to me...

Remember the PI=4 crusade? Heheheheh....

I wasn't here for that. Can you fill me in, no_one?

That was a year or more ago, I think... I don't remember much, except lord_nightrose and a few other people were trying to convince everybody that PI=4 and there was something else...

It should still be there in the old news, if I could find it :)

yyyeah... I remember that. It was me, FocusedWolf (who is DepleatedUranium), and ....... someone else? can't remember... anyway, we'd just say "PI = 4!" in our comments all the time... and post full books on here... thus forcing the staff to limit post length, and getting myself kicked off for two weeks.

that was a very bad time for me......
probably the most immature thing I've ever done.

At least we can all look back on it and laaaauuuuugh...

Yep :) I was on vacation during most of the book-writing part. I missed War and Peace! *cry* lol Was GundmanMan the other guy? It was something like that... Eh, maybe not. Wasn't there something else, like force of gravity=10 or something really odd like that?

I think so...

I remember my first post ever... :)

mmmm!!! yummy infinite factorial series, and log squares!!!

Pi is a very genius constant. I made a prog once to calculate it. after many hours of calculating the first decimals were correct. but it took so long and it was impossible to find the exact answer so i just quit.

Would that be the one that was uploded a few days ago?

Err... maybe not.