Sock It To 'Em: New TI-OS?
Posted by Nick on 13 June 2000, 03:47 GMT
Alright... many (many) people have presented this idea on our comment boards, on our email lists, on IRC, in emails to me, as news items on here, and a partridge in a pear tree. Now, it looks as if a group of people are going to make a serious, gung-ho attempt at it. François Goldgewicht, Jean Canazzi (the author of Bigdyna), and Niklas Brunlid (former staff and the author of Prosit) are looking for assistance in the development of a new TI-OS for the 89 and possibly even the 92 Plus. Below, you will find an ICQ chat I had with François today - it addresses some initial questions I had. My only concern is TI adapting their hardware to not accept such a ROM, but ... yeah. Email François if you're a skilled 68K ASM programmer and you'd like to join the project. Trollou 6/12/200 1:44 PM hi i have something to ask u :) BlueCalx 6/12/200 1:44 PM shoot Trollou 6/12/200 1:46 PM i have a project : i would like to make a rom. i already studied this and i am sure that's possible. this would be in open source, etc. i would like to create a programers group, international coders so i just would like u to post a news in order to help me :) BlueCalx 6/12/200 1:47 PM hrm.. impressive :-) Trollou 6/12/200 1:50 PM it's simple... every coder of the ti-fr group is ready (almost :) ) the project is xplained on ti-fr home page (use babelfish to transalte :) ) the mail is : webmaster@ti-fr.org (name : François Goldgewicht) thx Trollou 6/12/200 1:52 PM u can put the name "jean canazzi" (author of bigdyna) BlueCalx 6/12/200 1:53 PM ok Trollou 6/12/200 1:58 PM other name : niklas brunlid BlueCalx 6/12/200 1:58 PM wow... is this intended for math and stuff too, or just gaming compatibility? Trollou 6/12/200 2:05 PM everything : it will replace the tios :) BlueCalx 6/12/200 2:08 PM okay.... if you make it so the math functions are just as madly elite, then i'll definitely post :) (me being the math geek that i am) Trollou 6/12/200 2:09 PM :) Trollou 6/12/200 2:13 PM at a fisrt time it would be just a big program who stands with the tios... in oder to have maths functions etc. but after we could make uour own types (stack...) BlueCalx 6/12/200 2:14 PM yeah.... i'll be back later, i'm going to take a shower. Trollou 6/12/200 3:06 PM look at ti-fr and go to the comments : u'll see the enthousiasm of the frenchies :)
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Re: Sock It To 'Em: New TI-OS?
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Sebastian Reichelt
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WOW!!!! Sounds awesome.
It seems I am the only one here who doesn't make requests (other that I can program for it, of course). Just a question: How are you going to solve the ROM checksum problem? Or is it solved already? Or is it just going to be a system on top of the present one, using no TIOS functions at all?
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13 June 2000, 04:40 GMT
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Re: Sock It To 'Em: New TI-OS?
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~Dan_C
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I guess just programming in 68k for games isn't enough anymore. . .now we (as if I'm trying to include myself or something, geez) have to go around porting Linux and writing up whole new operating systems. Anyone remember Doom programmed in 82 BASIC by that company Acme Software? Heh, well, good luck on this colossal project, it seems that you will need it.
Dan
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13 June 2000, 04:41 GMT
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Re: Sock It To 'Em: New TI-OS?
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Ryan Ritterson
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I think that a new TI-OS would be cool, but there are a couple of points that I think should be added:
1) Would it be legal to box and sell the new OS, not only to provide compensation for the programmers, but to stir up TI to keep their OS "better" than the new one.
2) (Ok, so i'm off on a pipedream) Are there any good Comp Eng's out there who could build their own calulator anywhere near the capacity of TI's. If yes, we should develop the OS and Calc in tandem. If we could port the TIOS to the new Calc we could have even more fun. Besides, although optimizing the code on the TIOS would speed it up, a nice WinCE style processor running at 100+MHZ would really be nice, and a smart memory slot would be even better. (Can you imagine a 192MB card in your calculator now? and a 100mhz processor? Can you say DOOM born again? What about one of those new Transmeta processors that run Linux? They are power scalable, and they already run Linux, not to mension it would be easy to update the soft-firmware to allow it to code-morph the 68k instructions to allow the TIOS to run.
3) Who is going to absorb the almost certain lawsuits by TI? :-)
Any responses are welcome:
Ryan AKA Evilsnowman
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13 June 2000, 05:05 GMT
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Re: Sock It To 'Em: New TI-OS?
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MathJMendl
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Anyone have any ideas on the possibilities of crashes with this? Would it be possible to easily go back to TI's OS? If so good...otherwise I don't know...I'm not risking my $150 calculator by putting on new software if I can't go back.
And how about an on-calc, non-asm programming language? Would we use something like TI BASIC or create a new, possibly more optimized one? What are the possibilities of taking parts of TI's OS..or would we just start from scratch (as it seems)?
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13 June 2000, 05:25 GMT
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Re: Re: Sock It To 'Em: New TI-OS?
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EvanMath
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As far as crashing the calculator, I think TI installed a safeguard against permanately crashing the calculator with a bad ROM. Specifically, I know, from experience (oops :)), that if you interrupt the ROM installation process, you just pop a battery, press I, and reinstall a ROM.
As far as a language, I have an HP49 emu, and I like their version of Lisp...
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13 June 2000, 21:46 GMT
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