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Noshell Released
Posted by Michael on 21 June 2007, 21:56 GMT

Brandon Wilson has released a revolutionary new flash shell for the 83+ series called Noshell (pronounced nosh-ell). Simply stated, Noshell runs anything.

Regardless of whether a program is ASM or BASIC, archived or in RAM, for MirageOS or for ION, Noshell will execute anything from the homescreen in the conventional prgmNAME syntax. Furthermore, it optionally allows for writeback, ensuring that high scores in games are saved.

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Re: Noshell Released
calkfreak83  Account Info
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I'm not trying to sound cynical or anything, but running programs from the home screen is a bit archaic if you ask me.. I like to see my programs in a GUI as in MirageOS. The PRGM menu looks horrid. Also, MirageOS hides all the subprograms and stuff like that, so you don't have to scroll through as much. MirageOS, though, should add some way to scroll more easily. If you want a program that starts with Z, and, like me, you have around 90 programs on your calc, it can take a while to get to the bottom of the list...

I vote GUI over home screen, but that's just my opinion.

Reply to this comment    22 June 2007, 22:53 GMT

Re: Re: Noshell Released
Brandon Wilson  Account Info
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Are you aware that if you press [ALPHA]+[Z] on the PRGM menu, it takes you to the first program which starts with Z?

Reply to this comment    22 June 2007, 23:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Noshell Released
b-flat Account Info
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Yes (note this is b-flat); however, TI has strange routines to do so, creating a rather long wait if you have many programs. It also causes errors if you have more than 256 programs (as shown to me by calc84maniac). Note that the errors are not like "err:syntax."

I'll have to try it out...

It'll be good to give to people who don't want to bother with learning how to unarchive/archive & use apps...

Reply to this comment    23 June 2007, 00:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Noshell Released
calkfreak83  Account Info
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Right. I know, but I was saying MirageOS should implement something like that.. Pretty much what I'm trying to say is that GUI > Command line, but if GUI added the "jump to [letter]" thing, it would be even better.

Reply to this comment    24 June 2007, 01:15 GMT

haha
shkaboinka  Account Info
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Yeah I know, Chocolate is the perfect flavor. I mean, who doesn't like chocolate? Why did they een make vanilla!

or more realiztically, we will make enough money if we do not sell any in (my) size; sure, some people would like that, but most would not even know.

haha, just kidding. Yeah, everybody is entitled to their opinion. The problem with text though is that people put a face to words that is not there. It's like a car horn; how do you tell an angry beep from an impatient beep? I think they ought to make 2 car horns: an obviously "oh, sorry" horn, and an obviously "hey, you jerk!" horn.

You know, there are alot o simple things that have not been invented, like pushing the floor-button in an elevator a second time to deselect it, or a dictionary full of words that people do NOT already know?

Reply to this comment    23 June 2007, 00:56 GMT

Re: haha
shkaboinka  Account Info
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oh my goodness, my typing is starting to suck now!

Reply to this comment    23 June 2007, 00:57 GMT


Re: haha
Matt M Account Info

vanilla rocks!

Who knows why elevaters don't do that...although I remember being in one that had a "cancel" button, didn't try it though.

Reply to this comment    29 June 2007, 23:17 GMT


Re: Re: Noshell Released
Matt M Account Info

I like the folders in Mirage too, that's the main reason I use it...

...and because I can hide the progs so my calc looks blank, even when it's loaded...

Reply to this comment    29 June 2007, 23:13 GMT

Re: Noshell Released
Patrick Prendergast  Account Info

Great job on the shell ... or lack-there-of Brandon! :). Its good to see ticalc are still featuring stuff too.

Reply to this comment    23 June 2007, 01:02 GMT

Re: Noshell Released
Adam Stein Account Info
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I know it's an impressive innovation, but it still needs some work... Some MirageOS programs display TI-OS characters when you exit them (Pheonix) and some don't even close whatsoever (Barrels). I also would like to see this program work without messing up Omnicalc. Besides that, it's an amazing program. I hope this helps!

Reply to this comment    24 June 2007, 23:25 GMT


Re: Re: Noshell Released
Brandon Wilson  Account Info
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I'm not surprised you get character corruption with some programs. That's pretty much laziness on my part, and I'll fix it.

When you say it messes up Omnicalc, what does it mess up? A couple of people are telling me that the hook chaining's all weird, and I'm looking into that.

And yeah, it's not easy to support every program that's ever been written...they all do wacky things of some sort (or maybe I do wacky things they don't like). I'll look into those two games you mentioned (though I thought the Ion and MirageOS versions of Phoenix didn't display any crap).

Reply to this comment    25 June 2007, 11:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Noshell Released
patz2009  Account Info
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I had the same problem with Phoenix, but mine was more "experimental" since it's the one modified for USB8X's gamepad. I didn't think it was that big of a deal anyway; one CLEAR and it was gone.

I saw this on the Brandon's site before ticalc featured it, and I thought to myself, "This has got to be the greatest thing since sliced bacon." Great job, Brandon!

Reply to this comment    27 June 2007, 17:27 GMT
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