FYI to all you ticalc fans...Dan had a tutorial going up on ticalc.org but he abandoned the tutorial and the work I put into porting it to start this project...I'm really glad he did! :-)

Dispite not knowing what the heck he is talking about about 90% of the time he still attempted to show me the latest and greatest thing he had implemented, I'm glad to see its news worthy!

Maybe nobody heard from GFA-Basic (the same as on Atari ST) that is so quick that a for loop of 10,000 iterations fits in 0,4s…
It is currently developped here :
tigen.org/gfabasic
Everything is in french I think, but this project goes well and is on-calc !!!!!!

Ye3ah it sound cool. I wish we had that for the TI-83+ , but Antidissasemblage sound very interesting.

There is another similar language called MLC (Multi-Platform Language for Calcs) that is also on-calc, but I believe it is more fully featured. It has 4 level flickerless grayscale, bitmap and sprite support, strings, tilemaps, save file, and much more. The coolest part is that its code is similar to java, in that it will run on many platforms. Currently the latest version is on the TI-86, with a slightly outdated version on the Casio AFX. Versions are also planned for the 83 series and eventually the 89. Check the link if you want to find out more.

The major difference, though, is that MLC is interpreted, while Antidisassemblage is compiled/assembled.

Hmm actually it look more like BASIC than java, but that's just my opinion. It's cool though, too bad the AFX version is no longer updated

I'm super interested to see where this goes, i would like to see multiplication and division implemented, and the strings are a must, but this is really cool, a language that can be easily ported, this means that we can see an explosion of programs for the less popular calculators, and some of the really cool 83+ programs ported to the 82's and the 86's, this will be interesting follow, please please please keep up the good work

I am part of the Antidisassemblage group and I just wanted to let you all know that things are already being implemented into a later version. Things like a greyscale routine, they are working on simple math structures, etc.

Go to the homepage ( http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/Antidisassemblage/ ) for more information. I have been receiving the group e-mails and a lot is going on. Check up on this project continuously as it is constantly changing.

I'm telling you from a professional standpoint, from a hobbyist standpoint, and just from a really really intelligent standpoint, that your first priority should be simple level math structures (multiplication, division, modulus, etc) and data structures (strings, floating point, etc). In light of those, the other features are just eye-candy.

Good work.

In PLAIN OLD ASM it is also very easy to compile for multiple calculators.

With the help of the TI-82, 83 and 83+ unification FAQ

Please please please refrain from flaming ASM. ASM makes BASIC possible for all those not willing to learn BASIC. Lets just agree to shut up and try to be friends :)

I meant learn ASM, sorry

It wasn't a flame. I can't even imagine how you could interpret it that way.

I'm not interpreting it that way, but there have been past instances and I really don't want to have it continue that way cuz I don't want Michael to ban me again

...again? O_O

didn't you notice that I didn't post anything for the last 4 or so days the AFJ was still being commented on?

Wow. I haven't heard of much TiCalc banning.
I have gotten banned from #tcpa for flaming, though.
...good times...

In theory, yes it is possible. In practice, it's far more difficult than programming assembly in the first place. Personally, I never even tried it, so, technically I don't have a clue what I'm talking about. However, the only one (to the best of my knowledge) who ever pulled of the stunt of compiling a project for all the 8x calcs is Patrick Davidson (Galaxian, Phoenix and the like). There's got to be some reason it's not done more frequently, and my first bet would be the complexity of the task.

Obviously, you've never heard of me. I compile for all calcs and shells simultaneously, now including the 85/86.

I also often compile for 82/83/83+ simultaneously. It is as easy as designing clever include and batch files, and using them.

Ofcourse I heard of you, I just didn't know you compiled your projects for all the calcs (and if I look in your author profile, I don't see any 85/86 programs...). What I meant was compiling for *all* the 8x calcs; I'm perfectly aware that many programs are compiled for both the 82 and 83 (and nowadays the 84 too); it's including the 85 and 86 (different screen size, different memory structure) that makes it really complicated (at least, that's the idea I get from reading through the Phoenix source (see "(Web Page)")).

Well, there's Egypt, which is also for the 85/86. Just not shown in the profile since the files there are links to the 83+ version.