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File Invitation System Announced
Posted by Michael on 1 April 2005, 05:46 GMT

We will be moving within the next month to an invitation-only system for all BASIC programs in our archives. This will involve several stages. All BASIC programs will be removed from our archives. Backups will be kept and will be available upon request for authors who don't have a copy of their work. Now don't panic about your quadratic solvers just yet - you will be able to upload your programs back into our archives. The difference is that from now on an invitation code will be required to do so.

Each author in our archives will be given invitation codes, one per each ASM program. The assembly authors can then select BASIC programs to approve from a list of pending potential files. When an author is out of codes, that's it. This will accomplish two things: The number of BASIC programs and assembly programs will be at most a 1:1 ratio. This should clean up the quality of our BASIC programs and ensure only the innovative and well-written programs are in our archives. Second, we hope this will increase the number of program reviews as authors will be inspecting all of the BASIC programs closely. In the case of older programs where the original authors may no longer be active, we will be manually reviewing those programs and will put them into the approval queue as needed.

Before we finalize this drastic change, we are soliciting comments about the idea. Please post in this news article with any suggestions. In the interim, BASIC programmers can e-mail basic-invite@ticalc.org to request that when we purge the archives, their programs be automatically placed in a potential queue to be re-added. Please put, and only put the file id of your program in the subject line (one per e-mail). The content of the body does not matter. You can find the id of your files by the number in the URL of their file information pages (e.g. "12345.html").

I understand that many BASIC programmers are going to have misgivings about this, but please try to keep an open mind and realize that in the long run, our archives will be more relevant to visitors.

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Re: File Invitation System Announced
Peter Wakefield  Account Info

Happy April First to all the BASIC programmers out there! :-)

And of course, happy April First to all the other people who visit ticalc.org.

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 11:57 GMT


Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Kaaiman  Account Info

Thank you! ;-)

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 14:46 GMT

Re: File Invitation System Announced
Hans Hermans  Account Info
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I really don't like this...it's going to make it more difficult for files to be uploaded, and you're going to lose the archives you spent years acquiring.

You think every author reads this? Alot of files are six years old and their users have since disapeared from the internet.

If you want to save bandwidth on the basic programs.....why not just break down the page into 26 seperate pages, one for each letter? That'd be much better IMHO.

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 12:42 GMT


Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
burntfuse  Account Info
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I guess if they were really going to do it, it would be better to go through and make sure that each file really works, and remove the bad ones rather than wait for someone to "invite" them in...

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 14:37 GMT

Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Kevin Ouellet  Account Info
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*cough*Look at the date*cough*

Anyway if they were really going to do that people would just submit their BASIC games at calcgames.org instead of ticalc.org

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 15:00 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Shawn Zhang Account Info

>>Anyway if they were really going to do that people would just submit their BASIC games at calcgames.org instead of ticalc.org

Calcgames is crap anyways, so let them deal with the BASIC progs.

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 18:16 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Coolv  Account Info
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>>Calcgames is crap anyways, so let them deal with the BASIC progs.
Hear, hear!

Reply to this comment    2 April 2005, 02:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
tifreak8x  Account Info
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really? My stats go up a lot faster there, my stuff gets reviewed there, the people are alot nicer there, they have an ACTUAL FORUM there, a much nicer layout for links and such.

Hmm, I think calcgames to be better than ticalc in some aspects (like the mentioned forum)...

Reply to this comment    3 April 2005, 20:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
aml1358  Account Info
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>>Calcgames is crap anyways, so let them deal with the BASIC progs.
Amen, bruther!

Reply to this comment    2 April 2005, 20:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
burntfuse  Account Info
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>>Look at the date

I know, that's why I said "*IF* they were going to do it". ;-)

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 22:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Shawn Zhang Account Info

There's also a bunch of crappy ASM progs in the archives too. A lot of them are obsoleted versions of newer progs that nobody bothered deleting. I've seen at least 5 "Marc the Superkid Demo" and two obsoleted versions of "The Verdante Forest RPG" that nobody bothered deleting.

Unrelated: It seems that nothing has been added to the MirageOS games section in couple months, maybe MirageOS has been obsoleted too...

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 18:35 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Kevin Ouellet  Account Info
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Hmm, I was thinking about asking ticalc.org to merge my two version of the reign of legends 1 together (one of them is only in french) or just delete the old one, but I am afraid of doing it because last time I e-mailed ticalc.org I got 46 autoresponder@ticalc.org automatic replies for the following next 2 months so I'm not e-mailing ticalc.org anymore.

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 20:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
burntfuse  Account Info
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120d//!!!

And sometimes I get none...

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 22:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
John Carlson  Account Info
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Once NimbusOS is finished, MirageOS the shell will be obsolete. However, MirageOS format programs will still work just fine, and as I have yet to hear of a NimbusOS format I image MirageOS will stay a strong format for quite some time.

Reply to this comment    2 April 2005, 03:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Shawn Zhang Account Info

>>Once NimbusOS is finished, MirageOS the shell will be obsolete

Like I said before... MirageOS is already obsolete! The only real shell is ION!

>>I image MirageOS will stay a strong format for quite some time

Umm... Almost nothing is MirageOS formated and almost everything in the MirageOS section is ION formatted. ION is the only true format!

Reply to this comment    2 April 2005, 15:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
aml1358  Account Info
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yes, but MIRAGE OS ROX!!! CUZ... umm... well, it has lowercase... and... umm... it looks cooler...

Reply to this comment    2 April 2005, 20:12 GMT


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Andy Janata  Account Info
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First of all, any number of programs can enable lower case. Secondly, lower case is a stupid idea to use outside of Notefolio, and MAYBE occaisonally in BASIC programs. Lower case letters are two byte tokens. Capital letters are one byte tokens. Hmm, I think the choice is obvious.

Reply to this comment    2 April 2005, 21:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Kevin Ouellet  Account Info
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I Agree, that sux though that lowercase takes 2 bytes instead of one

Reply to this comment    2 April 2005, 21:53 GMT

Re: File Invitation System Announced
Paul Houser Account Info
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I wonder if that email address bounces. Probably black-holes.

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 13:13 GMT


Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Shawn Zhang Account Info

Probably does, you can try if you want ;-)

Reply to this comment    1 April 2005, 18:36 GMT


Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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If I know ticalc, it probably forwards to another address.

Reply to this comment    2 April 2005, 09:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: File Invitation System Announced
Andy Janata  Account Info
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I really want to know how many hits it got. :)

Reply to this comment    2 April 2005, 17:19 GMT

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