Wow. I thought that was a joke, then I clicked on the link.

I wonder what kind of calculator it was... hopefully a low-end HP, I would hate to see a TI graphing calculator be multilated and spread among 100K+ cans of chili.

Well, it's about time that TICALC.ORG has posted a fake news item. It has not posted one for a few months.

Anyway, I have never used an HP or a CASIO(tm or R or something); what's so bad about them, aside from the fact that TI dominates the market with some of the most advanced calcs that are smarter in math than my 366 computer (although with good programming, my 366 could beat a V200 any day)?

I'm not sure what's wrong (if anything) with HPs, but Casios are unusable.

The low-end models can't find minimum, maximum, intersect or zeros. (even a TI73 or 81 can do that - it's what a graphics calculator is designed for!)

The higher-range models can do these things, and have color (really crappy).

Another problem is that the on-calc BASIC is unusable. I don't usually have a problem with 86-style menus, but the ones on a casio have some wierd ways of selecting things. You also don't have the option of "typeable tokens" which are good if you cant find what you're looking for.

BUT, the main problem is the lack of user-upgradability. they haven't even published what processor is in there, let alone opened any holes for assembled or compiled programs.

To ensure you always stay with quality calculators, "Don't call it a Casio, call it a Crappio"

I wouldn't say that the on-calc BASIC is unusable... its just a lot less powerful (as if tib was pwerful in the first place :)). The "functions" are more easily named, like RandNum instead of RandInt.

Explain to me how RandNum is better than RandInt.

///You also don't have the option of "typeable tokens" which are good if you cant find what you're looking for.///

*cough*yet another reason why the 86 should be the main Z80 calc*cough*

Typeable tokens aren't that great if you don't have a keyboard to type them in with (i.e. 92+/V200). It's nice, but not all that useful. 83+'s are much much more easy to use than 86's.

They are that great-for example, for a shortcut program to a shell or some very commonly used function, you can name it Z or something on the 86, and when you want to run it, you just type Z and press enter. On the 83+, you would have to select it from the program menu, which can be hard if you have a lot of progs.

>> Well, it's about time that TICALC.ORG has posted a fake news item. It has not posted one for a few months.

Um, we had one earlier this month!!! Check the link!

What I really meant was that TICALC.ORG has not posted a fake news item for a while before it started to post fake news items early this month. I hope that made more sense...

I was just kidding, while supporting the stereotype ph-so-many TI users have against the other brands. I would love to have an HP49G+, and have you seen the ClassPad300? click the URL above.

We've seen it. We've looked online at its bid specs. We think it's a PDA, not a calc, and doesn't belong here. Anyway, I know an HP-49G+ owner, and he is constantly swearing at it, while it gives off little irritating beeps instead of error messages and he doesn't know what he's doing wrong. He's read the manual-such as there is one-and cannot figure the calculator out. He can barely do four-function work with it (he's never opened the text editor, used the link, graphed an equation, etc), and that's when the weather is mild enough so that the keys don't melt or freeze. That calc is an irritating waste of time. If you need a new one, get an 89Ti when they come out and put PedroM, Morvlon 3.00, and some external memory on it.

Ahh, yes. I turned the beep off.

If you want, have your friend e-mail me and I'll help him with his 49g+. I don't have all of it worked out yet, but I can at least help him get started using it. (Actually using it, not yelling at it or whatever...)

Well you 366 can kiss my 486's shiny, silicon (bad word).

The poor calc. :'-(

I didn't believe it for a while and several other people didn't from the look of some of the chats.

I've lost my calc before too, 83+ for a few weeks...
I found it later in a black bag. (wtf?)
Good luck finding it. (Finding being the keyword, might be stolen)

Nick losing his 86 is the joke. The calculators in the chili is real, though.

Sure....*rolls eyes*

I suppose that USA Today posts "Fake News"

The link shows a USA Today article which talks about a TRUE CHILI RECAL DUE TO CALCULATOR PARTS CONTAMINATING CHILI.

I suppose you still don't believe it. (though I doubt it was a calculator which someone lost ... correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't read the whole story.)

Sorry, broken link. It's too ling to put in the URL box on this form so you all will have to copy the parts below to the "Address Bar" (where you type www.ticalc.org to get here) and delete the spaces (not dashes '-' but spaces ' ') to make it work.

USA Today

http://www.usatoday
.com/money/industri
es/food/2004-01-29-
hormel-recall_x.htm

>"Address Bar" (where you type www.ticalc.org to get here)
Thanks, I wasn't sure what the address bar was. :)

If that's directed at me--FYI there are some people (yes, this is hard to believe) that don't know what the "address bar" is.

Example conversation in computer lab with one of these people:
person-- I think there's somthing wrong with my computer.
teacher-- why?
person-- the mouse won't move
teacher-- try turning it off and back on
person-- how? I can't move the mouse
teacher-- hold in the power button
person-- where is that?
teacher-- will someone help [student] re-start the computer

ok... THAT is wrong in elmentery school their IS a small basic computeing class where they teach you to type porperley AND show you where a pwoer button is!

Sorry, I hadn't checked the link yet when I posted that :-[. (I do believe it now...)

Sorry if people thought I was complaining or trying to find fault, because I was not. I just wanted to point it out to those who didn't know or (like me at first) didn't follow the link to the "real news" article. I rarely read past the headline.

Someone at my school actually made money by stealing graphing calculators from other students' backpacks and then selling them for half-price or so...

a hundred or so lunches have been stolen from the lockers in my school... I wonder if they'll be sold back?

Lunches?!?!?! People brreak into others' lockers to get -- lunches?!?!? That is a horrible waste of time!

-W-

What if someone's lunch is poisoned just to see who is doing this aforementioned theft?

Exactly... that's why I would never steal a lunch (well, I wouldn't do it in the first place).

That would also be the exact type of thing that I'd do if I was being terrorized by someone who stole lunches. :-D

Now, where did I put that rat poisoning?

you could try using laxitives instead of killing the person. it would be much funnier.

No kidding! Well, I buy lunch, so I'm safe. And they can't steal my money either. We use an "account" system with a pin number (like a bank, almost) for our school lunches.

As do we. But for those of us who have free lunch (not me, my friend Richard, who does not eat lunch has it, so I use his number) do not need to keep money in out account.

-W-

I remember when we had to use PINs in middle school, even if we brought money. That sucked. Then, in high school, we had to start wearing IDs, and they used the barcode for lunch. That sucked worse because if you didn't wear an ID, you went to ISSP.

I hate those ID's, Ilost Five of them this year already

Wal-Mart is an easier victim. I made a killing from hot 89's and 83+SE's 2 yrs ago, along with most of their other electronics. I no longer steal though. Watch out for Seklorea, the newest in-development 86 shell. Already support for TIMM and Viewer files (launchers unnecessary); a sound player (from strings); uncompressed, VRLE, and RLE 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 bit picture viewer (from strings); chatter; FTP module; variable editor; game level recognition/protection; file (de)compression; and pw protection....It'll be the sh*t! Sorry to hear so much chili was contaminated...I pissed in a vat of Spaghettio's at a factory tour once.

oh, yeah! A plug-in periodic table and possibly a 3D grapher are planned. Sound, Video, file management...who knows what else?!

OMG... that is so sick. I hope you ended up eating the Spaghettio's too.

I don't know if he was serious about that part...but if he was, I hope so too.

Y'now, I'm not even surprised that you steal...

The point of my post was advertising Seklorea...the tour was in New York, NY area Kerm; I believe that's your hood ;-) Cool beans everybody, i'm glad Nick is posting more often.

yeah...that happened at my school last year...
some people stole a bunch of 83+'s, then sold them on ebay

I think they eventually caught the people when someone bought back their stolen calculator

It would be very stupid, then, of the person who stole the calculator to try to sell it to the person that orginally owned the calculator. People who steal calcs are bad.

To that last part: YES!!!!!!!