Hey, with all these complaints about why TI is upgrading an 'outdated' calc, I just have to say that personally, I'm very happy that TI isn't getting into the whole 'planned obsolesence' thing. Just think, 8 years from now, maybe TI will still be offering upgrades to the 89.

They probably "redisigned" the case to cut down on producing different cases. Look at the 73, 82, 83, 86, and 89; they basicaly have the same case the only differance is the button colors, text color, and LCD covers. they probably will change the 85 eventualy.

I agree with you. I posted a similar comment below before reading your comment. People say that TI is going out of their way to make this TI-82, but it is actually probably making the production cost lower. BTW, as a point of clarification, the TI-86 is not in the same case; it is still in the case that the original TI-83 was in. All the others are in the same new case now, I believe.

The TI-92 isn't.

I was refering to the original post that said "All 73, 82, 83, 86, 89 are in the same cases" And just corrected that one error. I didn't say anywhere that the TI-92 was in the same case... I dont think anyone ever said that.

I think a lot of you are missing the point. TI didn't go to extraordinary pain to upgrade the case for the TI-82. It's just a case. They're not "focusing their attention on an obsolete calculator," they're just changing the case. Just a small change in the assembly line. They are still stiding forward with the TI-83+ and others, and they are not (to my knowledge) extending the functionality of the calculator. Many people have said they are "wasting their time" but it is not that much time. It's the same calculator in a different case. Now the TI-73, TI-82, TI-83(+), and the TI-89 are all in the same case as opposed to several different cases - sounds to me like they're SAVING time, not wasting it.

Is the 82 really the choice for schools? Here in Finland almost every school has ti-85s or 92s, and if you want a better one, you go and buy an 86 or 89...

Cool, it looks much better than the "boxed" old look! Does anybody know if there are any changes in the features? Any new keys? Is anything other than the look changed?

Coming soon as: www.ti-games.com

Interesting subject, huh? What interests me is the way that TI-83, TI-86, and TI-89 owners have generally been saying how crappy the TI-82, TI-85, and TI-92 are. Well, I disagree. First of all, the TI-89 may equal the power of the TI-92, but you've gotta love the QWERTY keyboard and the Cabri II geometry software. As for the TI-85 and TI-82, all other calc owners should be glad that these existed because these are the reasons that ASM on calcs exists today. Even if other TI-8Xs has built-in ASM, the TI-82 and TI-85 were the forerunners that introduced ASM and a lot of ASM features (grayscale anyone?) Also, I think the TI-82 has a superior game library to the TI-83 in most categories and superior grayscale.

In addition, the TI-82 and TI-85 have been invested in by many high schools and middle schools in the U.S. and it would cost TI a lot of business to simply "stop making" the TI-82 and/or TI-85. Students naturally buy the same calculator that their school has and if they cannot buy that one, they probably will be discouraged from buying one at all, probably costing TI multiple calculator sales (most people currently in the TI world were introduced to calcs by the 82 or 85 and probably would not have decided to buy another calculator, or a graph link cable, if they had not been introduced by their school early.)

The modernization of the calculator cases, and, in the longer run, the features, is a good thing for all TI users. The new streamlined design of the 82 (and quite possibly other TI-8X calcs) is simply cutting down on TI's costs and allowing them to sell the TI-82 and TI-85 in stores more easily. (Would you prefer to buy a blocky calculator or a smooth one?) The TI-82 and, to a lesser degree, the TI-85, are not obsolete calculators yet and will not be for a while to come. Hopefully the TI users who have "calc prejudice" can understand that the great features of their TI-83s, TI-86s, and TI-89s would not be around if not for the grassroots enthusiasm of the calculator pioneers, using TI-82, TI-85, and TI-92.

Does anyone else besides me feel that the 92's large case and qwerty keyboard is obsurd? With the development of the new palm top computers w/numerous gigabytes of hard drive capacity and 64 megabytes of ram, the ti92 seems like a waste of perfectly good plastic. At least with the 89 and lower models, the design is smaller. What I am trying to say is why waste time programming a calculator when u could get paid to program a computer? I reached this revelation today at school and this summer will be paid for programming on a computer.

The TI-82 may not be as good as 83, 86, or 89, but they are not obsolete. They have all the functions that you need to do most algebra and a lot of calculus, and now with ASM, some entertainment can be found when bordem sets in in class. Most of the people I know have bought 86's because they were 'better', but I can do more with my 82 than they can on their 86 or even 89. My TI-82 have given me many years of faithful service and is now, after 5 years, begining to show signs of its age, sporadic mem clearing. I'm glad that TI still cares about older models because sometimes, it just makes more sense to use and 82 then spend twice the time on a suppossedly new and improved calc.

82 can do the same as the 86 and 89 can do??!?!....... I wonder what you been smoking. I seen things on the 86 pulled off that the 82 can never ever dream of....and don't get me started on what I have seen on the 89...

I think he's talking about skill level here, not maximum functions and stuff. In my class we almost all have 85's, but I can do stuff with mine that others dont dream of. The same principle applies here, i believe.

Is dim-TI currently selling the new 82/83's? Has the 82 ROM version been updated since 19.0?

<font face="Impact">I know that they've at least been selling the 83+ for a while now.</a>

The TI-82's rom has not been updated, unless I heard wrong.

stupid moron

Listen Up!

I have something to say about this. I think it's a good idea to fix up the boxy, outdated case of the 82! Anyway, I agree with TI for doing this... It breathes new life into the old calcs, and makes it much easier to avoid missing the keys, as I did before I got an 89. Anyway, here is my rationale on the whole thing:

TI should release all the current z80 calcs with Flash ROM and other things, and put them all in new cases. Heck, If they wanted to, they could re-create the TI-81, add a link port, flash ROM, and more features including the new case! What would they call it? The TI-81+! Also, Although I have never owned them, I feel sorry for the poor TI-80 and TI-73. I think that these unsung heroes of the TI Calc Family should be talked about more often. Also, TI should add a link port to all TI-80's, not just the ViewScreen Models. I think that all the calcs should have an update, even the dead TI-81 and the venerable TI-85, which were the first two Graphing calcs created. So, here's the plan:
Start selling the older calcs with the inclusion of flash memory and built in ASM support, and they would be given an extension of their long lives. I'm saying that there should be "+" upgrades for the 80, 81, 82, 85, and 86 as well.

Feel free to add your "$.02" to this, but no flames... I'm trying to make a point here.

-whytookay

I can't figure out why ti is doing this? If the ti-83 is "superior" why not just do away with the ti-82. The 'arguement' that schools already have ti-82's and ti needs to continue supporting them because schools aren't willing to pay an extra $10, is riduculus from a business POV. Do away with the 82 and make the schools pay an extra $10. Ti is also loosin money by simply supporting all these extra calculators. If they just had to write three manuals (say for the 85, 86 and 89), they could fire all those extra people that are just sitting around writting manuals, and designing product packaging.

-dissillusioned

People, People, People


I once heard that no schools use the ti83
Well guess what-----my school is updating all calcs to 83's and the teachers are even using 89's......And for all of you who said that 82's are used for all, Today I took a field trip to a college to conduct a chemistry experiment and guess what!! That's right the cbl's that most colleges are using right now are being run off of the 83's.

uh - 82 with ASM is basically the 83