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TI-82 and TI-83 in New Case
Posted by Nathan on 29 April 1999, 09:39 GMT

The images on Texas Intrument's TI-82 Product Information Page now shows the calculator in a new case similar to the TI-89's case with wider, rounder buttons, and the new high-contrast LCD screen. Texas Instruments gives the following reason for the new cases:

The slightly different look of the popular TI-82 and TI-83 graphing calculators is in response to the very positive educator reaction to the design, display viewability and rugged construction of the new TI-73 middle grades graphing calculator. Appearance changes to the TI-83 are limited to rounder key shapes and a raised display. The TI-82 change is more dramatic, as the product looks much rounder than the original boxy style. The key shapes for the TI-82 are also rounded.

Source: Texas Instruments

 


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Re: TI-82 in New Case
Grant Kohler
(Web Page)

Maybe TI wanted to fix up their first calculator with the link port. They might have thought that it would increase sales on a basic TI calc. So they added a new better looking case and a higher resolution screen. Or on the other hand it could be a mistake just like adam said above. I don't know just telling you what I think. Let me know what you think.

     28 April 1999, 13:42 GMT

Re: Re: TI-82 in New Case
Jonah Cohen
(Web Page)

The TI-85 was the first TI with a link. It came before the TI-82.

     28 April 1999, 21:26 GMT


Re: Re: TI-82 in New Case
aKromix

higher contrast NOT RESOLUTION. PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT!!!

     29 April 1999, 00:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI-82 in New Case
Grant Kohler
(Web Page)

Geesh, SORRY! I got it mixed up. Nobodies perfect. You don't have to be so anal.

     29 April 1999, 14:51 GMT

Re: TI-82 in New Case
Jeremy

Has anybody else realised that the neo-82 pic on the ti site shows the right arrow key marked the same way as the left arrow?... seems dubious to me...

     28 April 1999, 13:47 GMT


Re: Re: TI-82 in New Case
hello

yeah, i saw that too.

     28 April 1999, 19:11 GMT

Re: TI-82 in New Case
Steve
(Web Page)

I have no clue as to why TI is doing this. If it's basically the same (same amount of memory, no upgrades, etc.) then what's the idea? Are they trying to make it more attractive to those who need graphing calculators but don't want to shell out the cash for a TI-89? No clue here.

     28 April 1999, 14:13 GMT


Re: Re: TI-82 in New Case
ToddEStan


I know why TI doesn't upgrade the 82 beyond the case. If they upgraded the 82, you'd get an 83!

The question is, why not drop the 82?

     29 April 1999, 03:19 GMT

Re: TI-82 in New Case
Rob Hornick

Something like this, or like the TI-83+ "special edition", makes a lot more sense for a TI-86. Also, they probably should stop selling the 82 because the 83(+) has built-in ASM and strings for BASIC use, unlike the 82. However, there would be an outcry from teachers if the 82 was discontinued because most middle schools (where I live) have 82s and so the schools would have to replace all their calcs if they needed a new one. (Trust me on this, programming in BASIC is very hard to "non-computerish" people when introduced solely on a calculator with menus.) So TI is simply trying to make their calc earn more on the main market and attract newcomers into the world of TI Calcs (like it did for me. TI-82 onsale at Venture for $70.00. =)

     28 April 1999, 14:20 GMT

Re: TI-82 in New Case
Greg
(Web Page)

ARGGGHHHH!!! no!!!
my 82 has been raped! it looks like a crappy 83 now!

face it people, you people claim that the 83 is better than the 82... but if it wasn't for the 82, then FFX4 and 5 wouldn't be here, Little Dude wouldn't be here, and Ztetris for the 83 wouldn't be here.

deal with it... programmers (well, the good ones) like the 82/5 better because it took HARD WORK to get them to do Asm...

so stop knocking the 82, you 83 users who can't appreciate the 82!

-one pissed off Goatlord

     28 April 1999, 14:37 GMT

Re: Re: TI-82 in New Case
Sam Heald
(Web Page)

Yeah, 83 people don't seem to appreciate the fact that the majority of their games were originally on the 82, and then an 83 port was made as an afterthought. Such games include ports of FFX4, Ztetris, Boulderdash, Plain Jump, Galaxian, Orzunoid, Pac-Man '99, and countless others(yes, most of the above were originally on the 85).
Whether one wants to admit it or not, the 82 can do almost exactly what an 83 can do in terms of ASM. I can understand people claiming the 86 made the 85 obsolete because the 86 has 4-5 times the memory of an 85. But in fact the 83 has less memory than the 82 (by ~400 bytes...). So what if TI decided to make ASM built into the 83.
As for the 83+ making the 82/83, well wait for a few months when people starting making programs for it.

Back to the 82, does the better contrast mean that they switched the pixel color from blue to black?

Also, is Dimension-TI currently have the new model in stock or are they still selling the old one?

     28 April 1999, 15:05 GMT

NO!!¡¡ THE 85 IS NOT OBSOLETE!!!
Max

did you forget the memory limitation on ASM progs on the 86?... About 12k or so... The 85 is the root of all the TI ASM programming! Do not forget it!...

     28 April 1999, 20:12 GMT

Re: NO!!¡¡ THE 85 IS NOT OBSOLETE!!!
Kirk Meyer
(Web Page)

The limit is 9000 bytes, exactly ($FA6F - $D748 = 9000). However, any competent programmer can create programs up to 73kb in size.

     29 April 1999, 00:33 GMT


Re: NO!!¡¡ THE 85 IS NOT OBSOLETE!!!
David

Uhh.. no. Ever heard of YAS? Yet another shell? Daedalus never looked so good!

     1 May 1999, 04:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI-82 in New Case
Filja Maddok

I'm not dissing the TI-82, but many of the games ported from the 82 to the 83 were ported from other systems to the 82 first, so they probably would have gone directly to the 83 otherwise!

     30 April 1999, 00:00 GMT

Re: TI-82 in New Case
Phil K.
(Web Page)

I know I'm going to be really sorry for bringing this up, but the 83 is better than the 82. Much better, as a matter of fact.

There is a growing culture out there that have Graphing calculators for the simple pleasure of dicking around and playing games in class, and not actually doing their math and science, like the calculators were ment for. This being the case, why not just buy a $5 K-Mart calculator and a Game Boy? Probibly cost just as much.

In the actual calculator function (you know, what the calculator was made for,) the TI-83 was designed to be a "better" TI-82, as in the fact that it was designed to have all the features of the 82 and be able to do them better, and have more functions that the 82 lacks.

All in all, I believe the case redesign was well needed. If TI could just remake the 85's case and make an 86 plus...

--
Phil K.
PaSTE
--

     30 April 1999, 01:05 GMT


Re: Re: TI-82 in New Case
`

I have a wonderful idea. Reset both an 82 and an 83, and then say which one it better.

     5 May 1999, 23:08 GMT

Re: TI-82 in New Case
Evan

Why does it matter if they don't have ASM? Who cares if there's only ~27k of RAM? Does anyone give a horse's head if it doesn't have pretty little menus? Schools are the primary market for the 82s. They like them because they have more then enough ram, they work with CBL/CBRs, they're easy to use, and they have all the functions anyone needs through Trig. Why should they spend an extra $15 per simply to get ASM, when they'll never use it? Long live the 82, I say.

     28 April 1999, 16:01 GMT


That''s Dirty, Man!
ßøøZé

Why would anyone in their right mind give a horse head? hehehe

     29 April 1999, 07:15 GMT


Re: That''s Dirty, Man!
evan

No, that was my point.

     29 April 1999, 15:46 GMT

Re: TI-82 in New Case
ahertz

Notice that they have also changed the design (although less noticably) on the 83. (I'm not talking about the 83+ -- the original 83 is also in a new case.)

     28 April 1999, 16:29 GMT

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