Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
Posted on 5 March 1999, 03:42 GMT
We are sorry to announce that Bryan Rabeler, a member of our staff for the past two years, will no longer be contributing to the project. While Bryan has played a tremendous role in making our site a success, we are no longer able to collaborate with Bryan in a beneficial way. We wish Bryan the best of luck for the future and once again would like to acknowledge the considerable commitment he has made to the site in the past.
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Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
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Anon
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Since everyone is saying something, I guess I should voice an opinion. Here it is:
Time to move on.
Bryan's not coming back. He's been fired, end of story. Time to look towards ticalc.org's future.
I want to know who is going to permanently take over Bryan's role as archiver. I would like to know that Bryan's beneficial practices will be continued. He tested every program before posting it on ticalc.org, which also means he owned every TI calc (except the 89?). He also decompiled every zip looking for source codes, and he then put the source codes into a separate directory. This was very beneficial, and so far Kirk is not doing this. Furthermore, Bryan updated the archives 3-4 times a day. Bryan leaves a serious void that ticalc.org doesn't seem very concerned on filling. He brought a level of consistency and dedication unparalleled.
And who's going to take over hosting? I know I still have more than a couple unanswered requests and questions.
Regarding the reason behind the firing, I do not believe that the public should know. If ticalc.org members release information, they'll probably just make themselves look like jerks. If Bryan comes forward, he lose the oportunity to walk away from this with a little of his dignity left. It's bad enough that they publicly fired him, to make him say "They fired me because..." would basically "rub his nose in it".
The ticalc.org staff has taken the intiative to say "Hey, we don't need Rabeler". Now, they have to prove it.
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7 March 1999, 02:28 GMT
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Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
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Blade
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I for one would like to see ticalc post something here on WHY Brian no longer works w/ (or for) them. I also have a theory on the Eugene vs AntiEugene thing. I think it is all one person who enjoys talking to themself. Like me... I sit alone at night at 3AM yelling at myself... anybody doubting my sanity here? lol
also What's up w/ this 15char word limit? I don't even know what I'm sayin longer than it but it KEEPS COMING UP! Oh yeah... anybody who agrees w/ me on the ticalc thing plz reply: maybe they'll post tell us why if enough ppl request it.
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7 March 1999, 03:02 GMT
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Re: Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
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ticalc_chris
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Hmm. That's quite a mouthful. A couple of things I'd like to make very clear:
- the act of "handling" the hosting is a pretty short order. you contact us, we approve your site (or not), you agree to a contract, and that's pretty much it. right now, Magnus handles email to the hosting address. I suggest people send to that address since this may change; we are shuffling around staff positions, which I think is understandable after losing a member who handled several different parts of the site.
- if Bryan is humiliated about the effects of his own actions, who's to blame?
- the staff operation of ticalc.org is mostly unknown to anyone outside of our staff, so you're not qualified to say whether I'm "getting more power" or not. I'm not taking over any of Bryan's old postitions (at least, not for the long term).
- accusations that I posted messages as somebody else? interesting.
- coverup? once more (repeat after me): it's inappropriate for us to give away the private details behind Bryan's leaving staff. if the details come out, they're going to come from Bryan. period.
- you make a big point about not knowing any of the details about the situation, and then say firing him was unfounded. that doesn't make you a very convincing witness.
- we're not practicing any sort of censorship here except for what we've always said doesn't belong in our comments (and yours is on the extreme edge).
Guys, especially George, taking pot shots at me and the rest of the staff isn't going to squeeze out any juicy details. Threatening not to host your site with us until we release them is equally unimpressive.
If you really support Bryan, stick up for his privacy and his reputation by not asking us to torch him in public.
Chris
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7 March 1999, 07:11 GMT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
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George Limpert
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Thank you for answering a few of my questions. If I understand correctly, Bryan was fired for something he did. It is quite professional of ticalc.org not to humiliate him any more. The public does know enough. If Bryan has any complaints, I encourage him to personally come forward. Ticalc.org has made it very clear that if he wants his story told, he will have to tell it himself.
I do apologize to Chris for my comments about him being immature. I said that he would prove my comments right if he deleted my message which he did not. I also no longer believe he is in any way involved with the Eugene / Antieugene situation. My comments were inappropriate and insulting. I do have a problem with the apparently many Eugene characters posting messages, none of which are Chris nor any other ticalc.org staff member. Most of them seem to enjoy insulting Bryan Rabeler. I am sure that the staff of ticalc.org does not wish for Bryan to be insulted no matter what the situation might be concerning his apparent termination. Most of the people posting to this site, even the immature ones, are teens. I personally am 15 years old. My message is act your age. We don't need good riddance messages or messages that are flat out demeaning to the TI community as a whole.
I also would like to once again acknowledge the effort Bryan put forth for this site and for the TI community. Whether you liked him or you hated him, he will be missed.
I do have a suggestion for ticalc.org and all opf the TI related sites for that matter. Bryan dealt with the visitors to this site through e-mail or through posted messages more than the others of ticalc.org. It might not fit your image of being professional but that is the reason he was so respected. An old TI-FILES slogan was 'Where everybody knows your name.' It sure felt that way on ticalc.org with Bryan around. I hope that ticalc.org tries to maintain that atmosphere even without Bryan.
I encourage ticalc.org members, especially Chris, to respond to my post. Tell my if I finally understand correctly.
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7 March 1999, 19:57 GMT
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Re: Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
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Nathan Haines
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Well, that's a fairly unimpressive post.
I'm not a coordinator and had nothing to do with firing Bryan. In fact, I was rather upset about it at first. However, Bryan is not angry, so why should I be?
Now, all email sent to hosting @ ticalc.org (15 char. limit, hehe) will be handled by someone who is in charge of hosting. That's Magnus Hagander right now.
Just like I don't appreciate getting help mail to nhaines @ ticalc.org. I read every mail sent to help @ ticalc.org, and I answer most of them. If I can't answer one, I refer it to someone who can. Every message I answer comes from my email address and has my signature file on it. I don't even have a way to send a message from 'help @ ticalc.org.'
Chris's post sums up everything else. The aliases like help and news and hosting help us to more efficiently answer mail. You'll get a response from a real, live person with a real ticalc.org email address.
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7 March 1999, 09:29 GMT
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Re: Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
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Andy Selle
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First, on the subject of hosting. The mail for hosting accounts is going to Chris. If you have a problem with that you could send it to another staff member, but I recommend against it. If, upon finding this information, you choose to not be hosted by ticalc.org, it is regrettable, but it is your decision.
Second, on the argument that Bryan was fired. I guarantee that we have good reasons for anything that we might have done. Your opinions come from a fundamental ignorance of how our staff works internally. This is alright, however, I am upset if you blindly make rhetorical statements which have no factual basis. You can be sure our intention was not to spread rumors and the like. We initially thought it might be wise NOT to include a news item on the subject in the fear that the there would be rumors and questions. We decided instead to share the information we believed was right and prudent.
Third, I can attest to the character of Chris that he is neither selfish or arrogant. If he really was so arrogant why 3 years ago did he take the most popular site on TI calculators at the time "The Unofficial TI Homepage" and colaborate with Magnus Hagander, Henrik, and Isaac to create ticalc.org. That certainly isn't arrogance. You go on to suggest he is immature. If that were the case, would he not have already said all the bad things he could have about Bryan? He hasn't. He won't. We won't. Why? Because it is unprofessional and unfair to Bryan.
Fourth, on Bryan's loss. He was hard working. He will be missed, but is that enough? I will say no more in fear of hypocricy. We are willing to accept the possibility of lost hits. Sometimes the truth is costly, but it is something we need to strive for.
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7 March 1999, 15:52 GMT
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Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
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The Great Aardvark!
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What? Magnus is dead?
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7 March 1999, 04:11 GMT
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Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
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Matt
(Web Page)
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Ehh? Bryan left? Now I can't joke around to him about how ACZ is going to assimilate TICALC.ORG. Well, it is only a matter of time ;-)
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7 March 1999, 15:39 GMT
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