Survey posted 2000-11-19 03:21 by Andy Selle.

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In some cultures, cheating on tests and whatnot is considered a sin. Not mine, of course, but in some cultures it is.

I used my ti-89 all through senior year to cheat. In A.P. Phyisics i used the text editor to enter in all my notes. I used the drawing function to draw all the force diagrams. I had all the formulas that i needed because the tests cam right from homework the numbers were changed but the problems were real(square one(mathnet) for all you people out there who watched it). My math class worked on ti-83s and by hand to figure out polynomials greater than the 2nd. I used the "factor (" funtion. Oh it was great. i once even used it on a german test thanks to the international characters.

oh and i can't forget A.P. Statistics. Man all those formulas get tiring to remember. Its not really cheating but i had the statistics package on my calc so that i could draw all the shaded bell curves.

In our class, we have two different kinds of tests:
- with calculator (all have TI-89), during 2 lessons half of the problems in test are similar to problems solved before and the others new. In this case cheating is useless. Anyway, we can write programs and type in formulas, but we can use also a book with a collection of formulas.
- without calcular, during have an hour, you have to solve some easier problem. This test is to determine if you understand the algorithms etc.

Yeah, there's a gray area between "using" and "cheating". Haveing programmed formulas is helpful :)

Ya, no kidding. If you can program the formulas, use them. It really makes homework and things go faster 8)

I have used both my 83 and 89 it in the past for help on tests, but only when my teachers tell me that calculators are allowed on the test and only when I was checking my answers. When they explicitly say that they do not want us to use the memory capability on our TI's, then I respect the teacher's request. The fact that the 89 will integrate repeatedly for you does not seem to me to be cheating. That is simply an advantage of the TI-89. However, I do have a multitude of homemade programs that contain quite a bit of valuable information that I am sure that my teachers did not know about. Besides, cheating is a very loaded word.

how can they call it cheating if they let you use a calc on the test? but when they dont let you use a cal, and you do anyway... that's cheaeting. and yes, ive done it before. who wants to memorize the ideal gas laws anyway?

PV=NrT, P=NrT/V, V=NrT/P, r=PV/NT, N=PV/rT, T=PV/Nr.

So what's so hard to memorize about that?

Knight/Rocket's 6c.

No kidding. All you really need to remember is the one gas law that combins them all. Then drop the variables not used in the current problem. I think it called Bohr's law or the combined gas law or something (I took my chem. last year and glad to be done with it).

The universal gas law is the name I learned for it. And, incidentally, I wish I was still in chemistry (I've got AP Biology now and hate it).

-- Nick

I love Chemistry Fire GOOD, Explosion fun, acid cool!!!!

I am GOD!!!!!!!

I feel your pain.
It is HARD...
to anybody contemplating going into AP Biology...don't take it!

It is PV=nRT (Just to let you know) ;-)

I never would have made it through linear algebra and calc 2 had I not stored formulas on my calculator.

I answered yes, but that really depends on what your idea of "cheating" is. In my opinion, it isn't cheating if you know the math but don't want to do 60 of the same problems. However, I am taking Geometry this year and only have an 83+ and I'm finding that you really need to know the stuff, because some of it can't be or would be hard to do on the 83+, if you know what I mean. I write all of my math programs so I know how they all work. This may be cheating to some people, but not to me. I said yes because I'll admit that I probably take too much advantage of the ability to make your own programs.

That's my 2 cents.

--Darkfire

That is why you should get the TI-89 or TI-92+, it has a Geometry application which makes the class a little easier.

At my school a TI-83+ or TI-89 is required for Geometry and up. I am in Algebra II/Trig and Chemistry. My Algebra II teacher requires the use of the calc so when I use my 89 to solve, or factor it is not cheating. However you must show work or you only get half credit so the clac is a last resort.

Yes, I confess, I have used my calculator to cheat. I use the text converter for my 83. I type the notes on my computer and then transfer them to my calc. I also use the zhide mod so the teacher cant find the prgm! nice ehh?

man what the hell? you buy a TI for a price from 70-150 bucks and you're not expected to use it? i say if you have the knowledge to program cheat notes on your calc then you have the right to use them... i own a TI-82,TI-83+,TI-86,and last, but certainly not least, a TI-89. i have used each at least once to cheat on a test.

I have a ti89 enough said.


-WILDFIRE