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Dialup (56K or under)
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the speed of the Internet connection you most commonly use?
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alex cooke 
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Taht's it! 1GHz, 1GB of RAM, 200 MHz Front Side Bus, 6 USB Ports, 6 Serial Ports, 2 Voodoo 3 Cards, Soundblaster Pro, Zip, DVD at 12X, CD at 88X and CD-RW at 16x8x32! And I worked for it all!
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17 June 2000, 20:57 GMT
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Re: Re: What is the speed of the Internet connection you most commonly use?
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I don't get a new computer whenever a better one comes out, (don't have time or $ to get a new PC every day) only when my current one isn't good enough for what I need to do with it.
A list of the computers I've owned and why I replaced them:
1) 8 MHz 8086, 640 kb RAM, 21 MB HD with DOS 2.1 (not enough speed/memory to run good software; got rid of it when hard drive crashed)
2) 33 MHz 386, 4 MB RAM, 68 MB HD with Win 3.1 (too slow; couldn't upgrade RAM or OS; ran out of HD space. Has been in a closet since I bought computer #3)
3) 100 MHz Pentium, 32 MB RAM, 1.2 GB HD, 33.6k modem (still use it sometimes, but the hard drive is almost full)
4) 475 MHz AMD K6, 56 MB RAM, 5.3 GB HD, 56k modem (the one I'm using now)
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14 June 2000, 17:59 GMT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the speed of the Internet connection you most commonly use?
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Smegheadking
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The University of Utah recently bought a few super computers like the one NASA has, Several Terabyte harddrives, 500 Ghz. or something close, and a lot of other things that any geek, nerd, or intellectual - whatever you like to be called - would love. I'm more into memory than speed, two 30.7 Gig hard drives, and a CD Exchanger type burner, the ones used to commercially produce thousands of cd's , only mine does 12 at a time.
Thanx, ( DA JESTA ) n/r
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14 June 2000, 17:25 GMT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the speed of the Internet connection you most commonly use?
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Smegheadking
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I've been told that there are prototypes to a Uniherz processor that is like 10 to the 24th power: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000hz , but think it is just a story that there is actually a prototype for it.
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15 June 2000, 23:39 GMT
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Re: What is the speed of the Internet connection you most commonly use?
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TipDS
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That definition gets the general idea across, but in your context is is flawed. There are, basically, two kinds of "memory" access: Random and streamed
*Streamed access is what you get from punch cards, tape drives, etc. It requires that you start from the beginning of the media and read, sequentially, all the data until you reach the data of interest. That is why it's access time depends on it's location.
*Random acces is what you get from a hard drive, CD-ROM drive, DRAM, etc. Data can be accessed directly without reading all previous data. If you want data that is stored in the last sector of the hard drive, the read/write head goes directly to that sector and reads. Same thing with a CD-ROM.
If you need more information, let me know.
Tip DS
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17 June 2000, 00:59 GMT
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Re: Re: Re: What is the speed of the Internet connection you most commonly use?
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Nope, as long as the time is O(1), or constant, no matter which address is requested, it is random. It DOES take time to go between the addresses, but, no matter which address is selected next, it will take the SAME amount of time to access it. (Well...not completely true...if it picks a point on the platter that is farther away, the read head will take more time to move there...but that doesn't matter...I was just simplifying the definition of O(1).)
Punchcards, tape, and the like are O(x), as they take more time to get to a point, the farther towards the end of the tape (card) it is.
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18 June 2000, 02:47 GMT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the speed of the Internet connection you most commonly use?
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Martin Jackson
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I understand what you mean, as RAM, temporary volatile memory is generally referred to as the memory of a computer. However, memory is any device used to store data assosciated with a computer, irrespective of whether it is volatile/non-volatile, writable or rewritable or read only ... hence CD-ROM, CD-RW, DVD, RAM, EEPROM etc., even mercury delay lines, all can be termed as memory, BUT are not, in general informal usage referred to as the computer "memory".
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16 June 2000, 20:48 GMT
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Re: I agree approximatly 100%
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TipDS
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I would be cautious on defining what something "IS", based on what people commonly "CALL" it. People frequently give names to things, when the name does not fit correctly. You are correct that people usually refer to the memory provided by a hard drive as "hard drive space." It is also true that people refer to the memory provided by SIMMs, DIMMs, DRAMs, etc. as memory. People also frequently talk (or talked) of 2400 "baud" modems, 9600 "baud" modems 56k "baud" modems. And what is a "k"? Is it 1000 or 1024? Hmmm don't want to start on that.
I think we all agree that the term "baud" was/is badly misused. To my knowledge, there are no modems that actually operate above 2400 baud, even though the bit rates are much higher.
As for the stated requirement that memory require power to work... Well, technically, a hard drive requires power to work also. At least, I've never seen one work without any power being supplied. That is really beside the point. Memory need not be volitile to be considered memory. The whole reason the term volitile ram was coined was to differentiate it from the non-volitile ram that is available. I mean, doesn't the TI-89 have a portion of RAM that is non-volitile? I think it is even referred to as ROM. i.e. "Flash ROM" A confusing term in itself, since it indicates a (R)ead (O)nly (M)emory that can be flashed (written to.)
Now, if we want to get really down to the nitty-gritty, we can go to the real definition of memory. A memory is actually defined as anything that has an output based on a time delayed function of the input. From there, we really only narrow down the type of memory we are talking about.
I would encourage all of you to explore this further. I especially encourage it if you plan on going into the field of electrical engineering. Even more so if you plan on specializing in microprocessors.
Glad for further discussion,
Tip DS
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17 June 2000, 08:09 GMT
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Re: I agree approximatly 100%
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TipDS
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As for the k vs. K definition... That may be a more modern convention. If so, I like it. It would help clear up some confusion, if everyone would obey it. In the early days, though, Kb was an approximation of a real kb. (If I can use your convention for convinence) 1024 bytes was (and still is) roughly one thousand bytes.
As for your use of a wire as a memory, you are 100% correct. In fact, for transmission lines that are significantly long with respect to the wavelength of the signal they carry, a memory model is used. When this is the case, the delay is no longer minute. (Did I spell that correctly?!) There is also research being done into using superconducting "wire" to act as a power storage element. Put a power signal on a wire and the wire remembers the signal until it is needed (and drawn from) later.
I guess this is a bit of a tangent, but I think this all makes for interesting conversation.
From geeksville,
Tip DS
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19 June 2000, 06:35 GMT
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Re: What is the speed of the Internet connection you most commonly use?
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Donovan Smith
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I know that situation well. I bought my 500 MHz Celeron in early April. Back then it wasn't nearly as slow of a computer as it is now. Since AMD introduced the 1GHz Athlon, my computer has gone from an "economy" machine to a completely obsolete machine. That's what two months will do to a computer. You'd have a heck of a time even finding a 500 MHz machine on the shelves anymore.
I bought my machine for $599, an HP Pavilion 6630 w/ 500MHz Celeron, 64 megs RAM, and a 10 gig hard drive. I even added a WinTV Stereo TV/Radio tuner card and an Aureal Vortex 1500 sound card (it may not be SB Live, but it's one of the best sound cards I've ever heard) and yet my computer is already ancient history. Of course I wiped my hard drive of the HP preinstalled crap, partitioned my hard drive into three parts (main, swap, and data storage), and used 98Lite to install Windows 98 SE. I run Windows 98 without IE 5 and using LiteStep as my desktop shell. My system may be obsolete, but it still does some pretty cool stuff. Too bad you can't overclock a Celeron on an i810 motherboard with a Phoenix BIOS. Oh, well. I'll just try to find out if I can upgrade to a PPGA Pentium III or I'll get a really fast Celeron. Comming soon: a 40 gig hard drive, an extra 196 megs of RAM, a CD-RW, and Windows ME (when it comes out).
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14 June 2000, 17:43 GMT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the speed of the Internet connection you most commonly use?
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alex cooke
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Wanna get cocky? 1GHz, 1GB of RAM, 200 MHz Front Side Bus, 6 USB Ports, 6 Serial Ports, 2 Voodoo 3 Cards, Soundblaster Pro, Zip, DVD at 12X, CD at 88X and CD-RW at 16x8x32, 120 GB hard drive.
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18 June 2000, 02:09 GMT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the speed of the Internet connection you most commonly use?
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The_Professor
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The Capacity of a standard "1.44 MB" floppy disk is 1,457,664 bytes, which is 1.38 MB... This is because companies that make storage products (especially Hard Drives) define MB as '1,000,000 bytes', not as 2^20, or 1,048,576 bytes, which is the 'real' definition of a megabyte... which is why my '10.2 GB' hard drive is only 9.54 GB I think you can figure out why they do this...
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17 June 2000, 17:11 GMT
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