Survey posted 2000-03-25 19:17 by Andy.

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If you really want a calculator that will blow the others away...:

10 Terabyte DNA Hard Drive (penny-size of course)
DNA CPU (capable of 10 billion+ MIPS)
Direct optical link for those hard to display graphics

SO THERE!!!!!

what the hell is a terabyte!?!

A Terabyte would be 1000000000000 bytes
1000 Gigabytes

ooooooh!! ok! the first time i saw a reference to a terabyte was in the owner's manual for Windows 95. thanx for telling me what the heck that is!
btw...that's pretty damn big!

was that in the listing of known buggs?

No, in the list of things Micro$oft have said that are a load of lies. It's more than that because:

1KByte = 2^10 Bytes
1MByte = 2^20 Bytes
1GByte = 2^30 Bytes
1TByte = 2^40 Bytes

Which is over 10^12 Bytes. Micro$oft never get anything right.

Did anyone hear that speech from the UK Micro$oft guy? He claimed that the US Government were denying them the basic right to make decent software.

When are they going to start that then?

Ciaran
Hater Of Idiots (aka Micro$oft)

that technology is at least 50 years away...most ppl are still using silicon!and are nearing the speed of light at transfer across the motherboard!!
the Quantam computer(coming 2030) will blow everyone away...:)

Ahh, the joys of theoretical computing ;] I don't know much about it, but I do know that quantum computing [dealing with the orientation of sub-atomic particles, I believe] has the chance to be much more powerful than traditional [transistor-based] computing or DNA computing.

I personally voted for compatibilty between rom versions.

In fact, im kind of thinking about trying to make my own AMS, but I dont really know 89/68k assembly, but it would be free, contain all the major features of ti's AMS2.03 and DoorOS, work on all the 89s,92s,and 92+s.

Someone slap me. I'm an idiot. But if only...

ha. make your own ams. have fun...

no, actually, im not out of my mind. i think i could be done in the same style as mozilla.org (Read: Netscape 6.0). If anyone out there is intersted in destroying TIs stranglehold on all the 68ks, drop me an email and if enough people scream, i might set up the project. Some of my visionairy-style ideas are:
-Based on Prosit
-Have A Desktop Similar to Gnome or IE4/Win95/8/0
-From there, create modular "Applets" to replace an one-up TI's

Ack. Sorry for the crack-induced vision. Flames will be redirected to /dev/null.

NOW your out of your mind...
Do you think you can take away what TI has???
the leader in DSP and one of the largest companies in the stock market???
good luck for that, because that might not even help.

I personally feel that it would be best to keep the underlying O/S to a minimum of control. Why waste time with a overly fancy GUI (like Gnome, KDE, IE, etc.)? Sure it looks nice, but don't make it part of the O/S. Make it just another program that CAN be run, but not if someone doesn't want to. Providing helpful routines in the graphical system would be nice for programmers wanting to write more simple programs (kinda like using X or Windows APIs for help). But for those intense, really specific programs, programmers than just handle everything on their own.

If you do attempt to write your own AMS, please try not to make it larger than it really needs to be. Only include features that truly help people, and not the eye-candy. Make that GUI "Explorer" or "Window Manager" your second or third project after the new AMS.

wouldn't you have to know how to write over the flash rom? sorry if I sound dumb but that sounds like a difficult thing to do...

Also, if I made an OS for the 89, I'd base it more on the 86's. Sure, it isn't eye candy, but it'd be more efficient (especially the menus). I'd include the asm( command so there wouldn't need to be some loophole/kernel needed. Of course, I wouldn't be able to do this, but these are just my thoughts.

I want to be able to use the App Switch button more.
(like alt tab in windows) (windows manager is overkill methinks...)

I like 86 menus. I didn't buy an 89 to read menus with foofy boxes arround them.

I would also like to change the Stack screen... RPN option and 86 like option.

I also NEED a backspace key, (without using a shift) I hate accidentally clearing the line that I spent 5 minutes typing in.
(we also could really use an undo... another clipboard)

I voted for a faster processor, probably because i am content with my 96k (i think) of memory that i get with my 86 if I had an 85 or 83 or even my old 82, i would definately have voted for more space. I think along with a faster proccesor, a more powerful (as being able to do more things) would be nice. I think the z80 has about run it's course and it's time for a new one.

(i have an 89)
for all of us that use our calculator strictly for math, and have ever head to wait for it to "conjure" up its 3d graphs, and rotate them and what not, a faster processor would be by all means best for speeding up the process. The calculator was made for math, why not use it for math instead of worrying about games?!? I've done equations that take couple mins to solve, and two to three times longer just to graph.

for people who use it for math, faster processor = less waiting time for answers

smurf

I voted for more memory also but not for the same reasons most people want it for. I have a TI-83 that I do have loaded with galaxian and frogger but I also use it in college for math and science. I would think that with more memory larger and better programs could be written for it that would enhance the calcs abilities.
From what I hear and see from kids I work with( I am 29 and work with some kids who use the same calc in high school) and they tell me teachers are on the war path over the whole video game explosion on the TI's. That problem if anything will prompt TI to become more stringent and possibly make it impossible to produce "games" for the newer calcs.
In reality I would love to see all of the above features put into the calcs. I also would like to see more programs availabel for academics. whenevever I look for programs most of what I see are games. I'd like to find programs that mimic other features from other calcs so I don't have to go out and buy one of each model. Programs that allow enhanced graphing or chemistry calculations.

Just my thoughts from someone who actually uses thier calculator for something other than an "Game-Boy".
Johnny

it would be impossible to make games impossible, ppl would just find loopholes and create games anyway, besides if you want acedemic programs then why do you have games????....i rest my case
(you chose wrong when you got a ti-83 and not ti-83+ when they can out)

when I bought my TI-83 there was no such beast as the 83+. I think it came out about 6 months or so after I bought mine. My TI was bought out of necessity and not by choice. Had I had a choice I would have gotten one of the larger models but I was new to graphing calcs at the time( the last time I'd been in a math class was 11 years ago). Back when I last had a math class was High School and you were not allowed to have a calc to do your work with.

I remember the first day of class my teacher asked me where my calculator was and I pulled out my little basic functions calc and he looked at me like I was nuts. When I was in High School, God have mercy on your soul if you got caught with a calculator in class, if you did use a calc it was one of those little $2.00 models you picked up at Wal-Mart that you used for your homework. Now I had to get and use this $120.00 unit that had more power than my first PC(Rad Shack TRS80 Mod 4)
I failed the class with a 20% avg that semester, it took me the whole 6 weeks to learn how to use the calculator. The next semester I went to the same calss and passed with a 98%. That was just college Algebra. Now I am looking toward taking Calculus, Chemistry and a whole sleugh of other advanced classes to finish my degree and I would like to use my TI-83 as much as possible before I am forced to upgrade to a newer unit. Right now I am eyeing a TI-89 becuase a guy at the school showed me all the chemistry calcs that can be done with it. If there are programs out there that I can load into my 83 that would do the same thing I would love to here about them.

OK, enough off toppic......Sorry..
Johnny

I want a ti86q. It will be a Quantum Calculator (I've probably spelt that wrong) with an infinite amount of QRAM that can do lots of things at once.

Seriously though, it would be able to calculate every point on a graph in the same time that it would take to plot one point. Cool eh? Just think, sooooper AI because instead of needing time for 100 bad guys you can spend 100 times longer on one bad guy. If you get my meaning.

Dr Ciaran McCreesh
Professor of Supreme Fantasising, Dream University

hey thats not so much as a dream...
by 2030 they will bring out the Quantum Computers..
they use liquid instead of silicon and are as small as a pIII chip!
they messure speed by quarons(or something like that) and 3 quarons is faster that the fastest supercomputer in the world right now!(they're up to 2 quarons now)

source:USA Today newspaper

The only problem if quantum computers did come out is that they would be able to process information to fast.
I know this sounds strang but if they did exist then all encryption software would be useless this in cludes banks atm cards and credit cards. To put a q-processer in a calculator would be like handing over a plasma bomb to terrorist's.

(sorry for the sp error's:)
Shavok

you need to read the article for yourself
this IS going to happen, im not making ANY of it up:)

This is totally off-topic by now, but...
Yes, quantum computers exist. No, they don't do anything useful yet. They work in some experiments where the superposition of multiple possible states is useful, but they don't do simple things (i.e. addition) and they're certainly not in any commercial form, or even a prototype circuit board. Most quantum computing thus far has consisted of scientists manipulating and nudging atoms in a scanning tunneling electron microscope.


OOH! That's what we need! A scanning tunneling electron microscope in our calculators! That way, we could play really small games of tic-tac-toe with individual atoms! Because, as we all know, TI only builds calculators to play games on.
[end sarcasm. Oops, did I forget to begin it?]

your sarcasim only leads to your stupidty... yes the dont run windows but the DO add, thats all they do RIGHT NOW, i said IN "~!2030!~" THEN they release for commercial use.. be more noteworthy before you nit-pick at someones comment, besides they WONT use silicon for anything, they are indpendent of that since silicon is turning to be too slow.
(they're getting the comps's up to speed before they work on other instructions)

All I want is a general purpose quantum calculator. It's not that much to ask is it?

And I reckon terrorists aren't that bad, quantum encryption could in theory be uncrackable using photon polarisation (or something). Using that at best communications could be stopped, but not cracked.

Ciaran

People people people...
I have a TI-89 because I can already do everything I need to do in class. It just takes a heck of a lot longer with pencil and paper to find the integral or derivative of something than with a TI-89.

And on the encryption thing...
If you want something literally uncrackable, go with fractal encryption..which can be done already

Quantum computers will make it possible to calculate an entire fractal in the time it takes to calculate one pixel. In fact they could calculate every fracttal of any one type in the time it takes to calculate one pixel. That would ruin fractal encryption...

Ciaran