Survey posted 2005-06-21 04:31 by Jon.

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Survey idea by Jordan Elder.

That's an idea? Why didn't TI think of this? Oh, wait... let me think... because they found it humorous putting them on the market the first time round and know we'd sort of catch on to the crap we're buying for the price. Unless they were going to $10 each, it wouldn't be worth it.
They need to use the technology (to be released several years from now) in the calculators and release them yesterday.

This was my first poll.

I'm sorry, a TI what now?

on a more serious note, I see very little progression in the development of the calculators and don't see why they should be recontinued if their almost exact likeness is already on the market...

I am in complete agreement!

Especially the TI-73.

On the contrary, there's nothing quite like the TI-80 still on the market. Sure, the TI-83 series is much more powerful, but the TI-80 has the fantastic advantage of being much smaller than the rest, almost small enough to be mistaken for a scientific calculator. (Why is this a good thing? I'll leave it to your imagination.)

None. With the possible exceptions of the TI-73 and the TI-85, they're all bantha poodoo.

Here, Here!!

the ti85 so that you can play with zshell

i dont care for a new calc. the 68k ones are good enough. What I want is a half-way decent emulator that doesnt lagg to hell on a 612mhz xscale machine with 30 MB free ram. that's just plain worthless.

I'd have to say the late great 85, of course!

yup 85, we should go on strike and refuse to return to school until we have 85 cakcs in the markets again!

...what does not going to school have to do with TI's calc production??

Ya, TI-85 all the way... even though TI absolutely HATES the 85 and 86. If you notice, on their website, they give help on almost every family of graphing calcs they've made, except the 85 and 86!

Yeah, the last time I was there, they had a nice listbox with their calc models that would direct you to the page for each one, and they didn't even list the 86 on it! I remember having some trouble just finding ANYTHING on TI's site about the 86 when I got mine...

Ever since TI redesigned their website to center on education, I've had trouble finding *anything* on their site, period.

I think this is because the TI-82, 83, 83+, 83+SE, 84+, and the 84+SE are much alike, except with the higher the number, the more features, but the menus, and the programming style are mostly the same. The TI-89, 89 Titanium, 92, 92+, and Voyage 200 are much alike, with the same points of interest. The TI-85 and TI-86 are very different than those two families, and since the TI-85 is discontinued, the TI-86 is in a family of its own. I like my TI-85 alot, except for its very ssslllooowww program loading times, which can take up to 3 minutes to load, and I don't know if its this way with the TI-86. I think TI should make some new calculator versions with the realease of the TI-84s and the TI-89 Titanium, like a TI-87, which would have a faster Z80 processor than the TI-86 and tons of memory.

The TI-86, like the 85, is slow the first time a program is run, because the programs are initially stored as text and have to be tokenized before they run. (On the 82, 83, etc., programs are already tokenized as they're entered, so they run without a delay.) The TI-89, 92+, etc. also tokenize on initial run, but it doesn't take as long. The slow tokenizing times are very annoying unless you break programs down into smaller subprograms (which does make debugging easier).

The TI-86 is also quite a bit slower running BASIC code than the 85 due to RAM page swapping, which made it difficult to make decent BASIC programs.

Something interesting: I read a few times some time back that TI once made a prototype TI-84 (not to be confused with TI-84+) back in the TI-81/82/85 days, but very few were manufactured and it was discontinued. There seems to be almost no information available about it. Someone on the ticalc.org mailing lists several years ago said he had one. Later on, when I found out he was still on the list, I emailed him and he said he didn't remember much about it and was able to provide very few details.

yeah it did happen. i remember it. didn't bother to buy one though.

If I were asked by TI, which graphing calculator it would be the most, is the TI-73. The reason is not because it was the first, but because it has some cool features(not close to those related of the TI-84 Plus Silver Edition). These are the reasons, that I would like TI to start making again. Yes, those gray calcs without lowercase. Cool percent button.

Te TI-73, Is kind of good but the ONE CON OF THE 73 is that I know of no lowercase provider! :(. and lowercase+uppercase together are good.

Lowercase on the 83 line (of which the 73 is kind of a part of) wastes space as lowercase letters are two-byte tokens while uppercase ones are just one byte.

The TI-81 came first. Then the 85.

But the TI-73 is first in this survey!