Survey posted 2004-10-02 21:33 by Morgan.

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I don't really know anything but TI-BASIC. Never really got around to learning anything else. I've started on a few simple things like python and html but never really got in depth with them.

Another Python user! You should check out Tkinter.

What about CSS and HTML guys?

-W-

Those are not considered programming languages. HTML and css don't *do* anything.

You can use them to crash Internet Explorer: <style>;@/*
What else is a programming language for, anyway?

That's all you need to put in? I'm gonna try that!

Aww... didn't work. Maybe I did it wrong?

In addition, HTML is a markup lanuage, but not a programming language. CSS is not either, as it just extends the possibilities of HTML. CSS2 on the other hand would be considered a language, but only the very latest browsers support it.

I know all that, and I do not consider either of them a programmnig language. However, I wanted to be the first to complain about it.

-W-

"Windows Batch"? Ha ha.

People actually program with those!? That's... wow...

I sometimes make small ones to provide command-line args to programs if I feel too lazy to open a DOS window.

I wrote 2 programs in Win Batch - "Directory Mapper" (maps the directories and files on a local hard drive or folder in ASCII) and a interface for a freeware Borland C++ Builder command line tool.

The most useful batch files I've made are things like e.bat, which contains just the word "exit" (so I can type "e<enter>" because command.com doesn't understand ^D).

The other non-useful ones I wrote were just my experimenting to expose some shortcomings and limitations of the command interpreter and of Windows (that's not too difficult).

I installed a Real Shell (bash) in Windows with Cygwin, but it's slow to run programs because Windows has a painfully long process spawn time. So I just use a Real Operating System (GNU/Linux) now, and I don't have to worry about the severe shortcomings of batch files and their accompanying OS.

I wonder why there isn't "DOS batch" as an option.

Didn't you know? DOS was renamed to Windows some time ago. :-P

Windows is just DOS with a few letters added to it.

I thought DOS batch was different from Windows Batch

I think Windows batch is just DOS batch with some extra commands (e.g., setlocal and endlocal). They're not radically different from each other, so they're both restrictive in what they can do.

Comparing them is like comparing 2AM to 3AM (they're both dim), but it's night and day between batch and the Unix shell. :)

Yeah, they are pretty much the same.

Just wondering...what extra things can Unix scripts do?

UNIX scripts are amazingly powerful. You can do things like recording error messages to a file, sending output to both a file and the screen, sorting the output of any command by sending the output of the command you want sorted to the sort command, do a reverse-i search of your recently typed commands for those times when you want to run a previous command again, etc.

You forgot NewtonScript!! That's the most unimportant and proprietary language around!! Seriously, what if somebody owns an Apple Newton (and I used to) and all they wrote in was NewtonScript (and I used to).

Hey, what about BrainF**k?!
Does anyone actually use that?

I sort of do sometimes. My Z programming language (see my web page) contains BF as a subset & can execute valid, uncommented BF code, & looping is most easily done the BF way.