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Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
Burak Gul  Account Info
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The first comment (at least it seems to be).

I don't think so. The clearest example is TI's non-free apps. About a year ago, they made all the TI-83 Plus applications free for a month. And recently, they made Transformation Graphing and Inequality Grpahing free for TI-83 Plus.
Among the TI community, I can't recall any non-free program/application besides the advanced license of Command Post. There are thousands of files on ticalc.org and they are all free. I have a site and create program, but I never thought of selling them.
You should make a totally unique program to be able to sell it. Otherwise, somebody else can create a free version of the same thing. Also, it's very easy to crack applications/programs on such a powerless and limited (when compared to computers, of course) platform.

Reply to this comment    18 March 2003, 18:45 GMT

Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
Vincent Jünemann  Account Info
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Who wants to pay if there are ton of free programms to get on www.ticalc.org?! ^^

Reply to this comment    18 March 2003, 19:42 GMT

No!
slimey_limey  Account Info
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Yeah! Also, there's a very small base of people who would buy TI calculator software. HP has already captured most of the professional world, including NASA.

Reply to this comment    18 March 2003, 21:03 GMT


Re: No!
slimey_limey  Account Info
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*NASA: if you look in the newspaper photos of the crew of any shuttle flight, you will most likely see a HP48*.

Reply to this comment    19 March 2003, 17:20 GMT


Re: Re: No!
nyall Account Info
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Here are some photos of the late columbia astronoughts (spelling)

http://holyjoe.net/hp/columb7.htm

You can a hp calc rotating in front of them.

Reply to this comment    20 March 2003, 04:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Uh-huh. You don't even need an account to download programs (some people get scared off by that). And even better, ticalc.org doesn't do spam mail like a lot of other places. WOOHOO!

Reply to this comment    20 March 2003, 00:04 GMT

Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
slimey_limey  Account Info
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What's included in the advanced version of cmdpost?

Reply to this comment    18 March 2003, 21:04 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
molybdenum  Account Info

isn't it just a "you can use this commerciay if you pay us" thing?

Reply to this comment    18 March 2003, 22:05 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
molybdenum  Account Info

isn't it just a "you can use this commerciay if you pay us" thing?

Reply to this comment    18 March 2003, 22:05 GMT


2 Things
joelt  Account Info
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2 things are included in the liscence:
1. The source code
2. The permission to use it to produce an app that you plan to sell. Note that it's theoretically possible to use CP to develop an app to sell, but that would be illegal and against the liscence.

Reply to this comment    19 March 2003, 01:00 GMT


Re: 2 Things
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Why do people always ask money for their programs? Just wondering...

Reply to this comment    20 March 2003, 00:34 GMT

Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
nyall Account Info
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>>Also, it's very easy to crack applications/programs on such a powerless and limited (when compared to computers, of course) platform


Actually there are some pretty strong encryption/signing techniques used in conjunction with hardware protection schemes to prevent the piracy of application.

Reply to this comment    19 March 2003, 03:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
Burak Gul  Account Info
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I'm aware of those strong techniques, but you don't need to crack them to use paid applications for free. There are other methods.

Reply to this comment    19 March 2003, 09:22 GMT


Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
dietsche Account Info
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IIRC there is an assembly game called asteroids in the TI-86 section. Its been there for years, and to get the full version, the author requests that you send him $1.

-Greg

Reply to this comment    19 March 2003, 05:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I wonder how much money he got for it ;-) I don't see the point... it's not going to be a mass money-producing thing, and asking for money just scares people away.

Reply to this comment    20 March 2003, 00:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
AndySoft  Account Info

And who would bother sending $1? Postage is $.37... Over 1/3 the price of what it's sending!

Reply to this comment    20 March 2003, 00:43 GMT

Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
JcN  Account Info

Third post :)

I think that ALL software (for any platform) should be free, especially TI Software. After all, software is only a set electric computer instructions stored on the platform itself. The only cost of any software should be the package and the CD or diskette, if applicable. After all, any good programmer can always create a free version of the same piece of software, so charging money for it is completely pointless. TI Software should be free because it is totally electronic and downloadable, and does not require any physical material per unit (except the computer, but it can be used over and over and over...). I sure am glad that Magnus doesn't charge us for software :)

Reply to this comment    18 March 2003, 20:49 GMT

Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
molybdenum  Account Info

deveopment. transfer. purchasing of equipment to make software. cost of feeding people who make software.

Reply to this comment    18 March 2003, 22:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
JcN  Account Info

Um...development and transfer can be done online, which doesn't cost nearly as much as sending the software in a box.

Reply to this comment    19 March 2003, 03:31 GMT

Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
Umm... Yup Account Info
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well, programmers don't want to necessarily work for free, and computer software's usually copyrighted...

Reply to this comment    18 March 2003, 22:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
benryves  Account Info
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But wouldn't you like to get paid

Reply to this comment    19 March 2003, 11:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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That's what a job is for :) Writing programs on the side and asking for money usually doesn't work on models like TI-calculators. That's why I don't buy APPS from TI. I get the fr33 ones.

Reply to this comment    20 March 2003, 00:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
Umm... Yup Account Info
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no, but if you're a computer programmer, you can make money, and people aren't as likely to make good free computer programs (or will at least put in advertisements)

Reply to this comment    20 March 2003, 02:00 GMT


Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
Frank A. Nothaft  Account Info

I'd like to see 'any good programmer' creat a free version of Adobe Photoshop that is just as good.

Reply to this comment    19 March 2003, 03:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
molybdenum  Account Info

I can't say that the GIMP is very good so far, or at least not under windows

Reply to this comment    19 March 2003, 22:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
AndySoft  Account Info

Or Visual Basic.

Reply to this comment    20 March 2003, 00:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
benryves  Account Info
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Or MS Office

...and don't say open Office, 'cos that's not very good at all.

Reply to this comment    20 March 2003, 10:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is developing for TI calculators commercially viable?
AndySoft  Account Info

OpenOffice.org :p And I actually use it, but I agree, MS Office is better... But can you say FREE?

Reply to this comment    26 March 2003, 00:17 GMT

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