Survey posted 2003-03-18 18:12 by Henrik.

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I say yes simply because there are some programs that one person and ONE PERSON ONLY will come up with, and/or a unique way to get it to work, that NO ONE (except maybe no_one lol) will think of or know how to do... Or if it is just so usefull that even though there are other similar things, the app just kicks butt. Take StudyCards for example. I would pay for it if it was <= $10 US.

Its free now

It always has been. I was using it as an example, if they *would* charge for it, I'd buy it.

I vote yes because I've tried it (...not even one copy sold yet though...).
But, i probabbly should have said no. The reason is simple: the community is not willing to support commercial software on the calculator platform. Why? threefold: kids who have to ask parents for money, the tradition of freely available software with respect to TI calculators, and ...
TI has success with its commercial software because it is targeted at teachers who need quality products. Once the teacher has bought the product, it follows that the students will most likely buy the product too because the teacher requires it. This model works quite well (how many of you own a TI-83plus because you wanted it, and how many bought one because it was required for a math class?)

students on the other hand are willing to put up with programs that may not be top quality, crashing, etc... (that's not to say that all free projects are of poor quality ;) I would hope that most people would say that my freely available progams are of top quality.

another aspect that many people seem to miss is that for someone such as myself, it actually *costs* me money to be here. websites as one example cost money, and time doesn't stick around forever.

If you want to argue the time is money (as someone did before), i ask you one question, how many people do you know that make a living (As in get paid) without spending any time?

my $5.50 :) (someone was paying me, right? )
-Greg

>> my $5.50

It Depends. How long did you spend on that post?

i decided it was worth more than minimum wage... furthermore, factoring in follow up replies in response to replies made to the initial reply seemed prudent as well ;)

-Greg

You forget one important thing: free time. My idea of relaxing is hacking assembly in the evenings after working during the day (be that summer work or school work depending on time of year).

This is how much of Hail was developed.

excellent point :) where would we be without free time! I tend to spend my 'free' time programming too. The trick for myself is usually drawing the line. I'm on spring break right now, and i purposefully didn't bring my calculator stuff home :/ but i did bring the code base for an online book ordering system that i am being paid to develop for the CUW Bookstore... so, now i'm getting paid to have fun programming in my freetime :)

-Greg

I write programs for fun too, sad ggek that I am.

Why did you charge money for the source code of Command Post?

BTW, I got a TI-83+ SE because I WANTED it, not because it was required.

>Why did you charge money for the source code of Command Post?

I don't. You simply have to buy the Professional License to get the source code. You can have your car painted any color you want as long as its black.

>BTW, I got a TI-83+ SE because I WANTED it, not because it was required.
good for you. TI quite possibly marketed the SE towards someone like yourself. ...young, in school, most likely taking math classes (which require some form of calculator... of which i bet your school uses TI's), and who wants a gameboy that teachers won't see as odd :P

-Greg

> i bet your school uses TI's
You bet it does! I get stared at for using/having a non-TI calculator (i.e. my hp49g) in class. Of course, being stared at for having more than one calculator out in class, and using both simultaneously, is something I chalk up under either the "symmetric multiprocessing" column or the "damn he's a nerd" column. Sadly, mostly the last.

I'd do it too if I had two... Of course, they'd be linked together (even if they are different makes, I'd find a way), and I'd find a way to get SETI to run on on them (lol)...

ALL YOUR BATTERY ARE BELONG TO ME.
(They would have to if I had more than one calc :p )

Actually, I got a TI-83+ SE for program developing. My TI-83+ simply became too slow to handle the programs I was writing for it as my skills improved, and it was also running out of archive memory space.

I have an 83+, and I want an 83+SE... Not just for games, but all these frickin' Apps! I have Symbolic (for simp() and numStr()), CalcSys (for general messing with :) ), OmniCalc (gotta love the custom menu, multiple bases, entries menu, paren assistant... and other stuff), and MirageOS (what 83+/SE owner does NOT have this one?)... I would put Elements, Socrates, PuzzPack, Prob Sim, MegaCar, Chasm, and others if I had the space... As it is, I have <40K FLASH free... I am anal and make Group backups of all of my programs every 10 minutes or so...

I want an 89 too, but since I can't use it at school, I'd get an 83+SE first....

*grr @ rambling*

Catalog Help, Spanish OS, other-languages-I-don't-know- but-will-use-to-learn-them, ...

If you do get a TI-83+ SE, here this:

MirageOS does not work on it (it is too unstable) :(

Everything else does, though :)

Yeah, earlier today I thought about it, "how would it display 1.4MB free archive?" :(

> kids who have to ask parents for money
I have plenty of money, it's the credit card or check that's the problem.

> how many of you own a TI-83plus because you wanted it
I don't have one, but I want one that doesn't take up any space in my pocket. How much RAM/ROM does it have?

TI-83+:
RAM: ~24,300
ROM: 160K Archive
TTL: 512K RAM/Archive/OS

TI-83+ SE:
RAM: Same I think
ROM: 1.5M Archive
TTL: Dunno, 1.8M or something?

They use the same OS. (i.e., you can send it from an 83+SE to an 83+, or vice-versa, I think.)

The RAM is the same between TI-83+'s and TI-83+ SE's. The ROM is significantly larger on a TI-83+. Although the TI-83+ SE has more archive memory, I think that the ROM image is still 512K. Yes, it is possible to send programs from a TI-83+ to a TI-83+ SE, but it is more unstable to do it vice versa. It is still possible, though, but it is good to have both of them running on OS112, OS114, or OS115 (OS115 is the most stable) OS's are cross-compatable when it comes to sending and receiving programs.

Actually, the 83+SE has MUCH more RAM than the 83+... about 98K I think (correct me if I'm wrong).
However, this RAM is not accessible through the OS... you need a special prog to do that for you! (Such as OmniCalc)

TI-83+:
RAM: ~24,300
ROM: 160K Archive
TTL: 512K RAM/Archive/OS

TI-83+ SE:
RAM: Same I think
ROM: 1.5M Archive
TTL: Dunno, 1.8M or something?

They use the same OS. (i.e., you can send it from an 83+SE to an 83+, or vice-versa, I think.)

It hung, and judging by the time stamps (2 minutes apart), it is obvious why I thought it didn't go through (or it should be).