Survey posted 2003-03-14 02:23 by Henrik.

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The next one really ought to be the TI-86 Plus, but that probably won't happen.

I want a grayscale compatible TI-84 as an upgrade for the TI-83+! Maybe a TI-76, TI-89 omega, TI-87, TI-93, or TI-100 would be pretty nice also.

in capp (career and personal planning, here in canada, I hate that class) I made an advertisement poster thing, for a product that had not been made then, the TI-108 Plus. I envisioned it as a multiple touchscreen colour laptop-like device. A few months later, a real TI-108 was released, a pocket non scientific. well, the one I made up was the plus model...

You should have told them about your design and stuff! Maybe they would have used some of the ideas for future models...

About a year ago CNN posted an article on calcs and pda's becoming more alike. I believe it was posted on this site.

In a way, I think TI should invest more into the software market. PoketPC and Palm OS TI Graphing Software would be used often. THe software could have plugins (i.e., flash apps, add functionality such as CAS, etc.) and would have color grpahing (depending on hardware). A nice laptop/desktop/tablet edition would also be nice.

I think that TI's next move will be something like a TI 87 (inbetween the86 and 89/92). It would be a good move for them so that they could pickup more revenues from the sale of an intermediate calculator.

TI should also become more busines oriented. Make calcs that are specifically marketed for businesses. For example, hand held engineering calcs that have a narrower base that can be held more like a handle with "smart buttons" like the Motorala phones. Hardware and software acessories should also be designed for this purpose as well.

I hope so, but I doubt it. They seem to be heading further from the calculator arena... so sad

BUT IF THEY DO
The things I want most to see are
A) A linear grapher where you can enter the function in terms of 0, not Y.
B) 3d point plotting.


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I don't see why you want the linear with 0 =, that ius just manipulation, the 89 could probably do it... 3d point plootting would be neat, but you would need a bigger screen I think for any purposes...

Just wondering, do you know if the hp 49g does 3d plotting? I could use that for Calc III...

NOt to my knowledge. It does, however, do 3D graphing about 3 times faster than the 89 (literally!) despite having a 4mhz processor as opposed to the 89 & 92(+)'s 12mhz. It is slower on many other things, however, including the catalog (which I think is the one of the slowest things on it).

The graph^3 app for the TI-83+ does 3D graphing much faster than both the TI-89 and the hp49. The problem, though, is that the application only gives room for one Z= equation.

That's not too big of a problem. :)

Hey, look at benryves's pi background thing for the 83+ It is sweetish. ;-)

it is cool, but slow and flickery, and hogs a lot of "system resources" (:

Well... it would be just to show off to your friends for a while. :) Then you could take it off, but backgrounds are fun :) One time, I was programming in C and I forgot to turn off the grayscale (GrayOff();) and it returned with one plane as a "background" and the other as the main color. I was surprised that it didn't crash right away. It looked cool, kind of :)

It would take all the hassle out of graphing conics. What about (x+y)^3=0, removes all the hassle of solving for y.

Simplicity is vital.

You could write a program to do it for you...

I don't know if they'll release a new one...they'll probably just rename the ones they have and turn them ugly colors like they did with the 73 "explorer." I'm getting an Hp 49g for my birthday, and that is kinda like a TI 89+, so...that should do it for me.

I also recieved a 49g for my birthday, and I love it. It even has a built-in speaker! Have fun!

Speaker? For music? That means you don't have to hold it up to an AM radio on a dead station! WHOA! lol

Hey :) Cool! You updated my program! w00t!

TI will probably release a new calc soon, but it will just contain "gimicky" features!
Its not like it is really needed, they already have a HUGE range for just about any purpose.
If a new one is released, it will probably contain MORE power, MORE speed, have MORE capabilities, and contain more "eye candy" [excuse the term "eye candy"]
For example [TI-83+ Blue Edition]! It is just an 83+ with a transparent blue cover front and back, and a slightly different CPU {Hardly noticable}!

As long as that "Blue Edition" has 10 MB of Flash Rom, 256 KB of (accesable!) Ram, and a 36 MHz processor, I don't really care how it looks. ;)

Yeah, wouldn't that be sweet! Unfortunately, the blue edition is just that, a *Gimick*. It is pretty much an ordinary 83+ that looks different!
TI will have to get their priorities right if they want to do better! Looks are minimal!
Its not how it looks, but how it performs! Performance is what we all look out for!
But it may be unrequired in some circumstances, I live in Australia. The TI-83+ Silver Edition is not allowed to be used in any of our high school exams. It has too much speed and memory for a calculator and is classed as a *PC* in their words!
Pfft! What a croc!

That 10 MB of Flash ROM would be good only if it ran as fast as ASM progs

With the extra Flash ROM, TI had better make an on-calc compiler (rewrites a BASIC program into machine language and executes that) so that all programs would be exceptionally fast. Right now, all TI calculators with programming capabilities use a crappy interpreter (translates one line of BASIC code at a time into machine language, executes it, and reinterprets it back into BASIC). The only reason assembly programs and C programs execute so darn fast is because they are compiled versions of the text program on your PC. With an on-calc compiler, the calculator could first compile the program, store the compiled version into a temporary memory slot, and execute it from there. Once the program is finished, the calculator would simply delete it, but retain the BASIC code. If TI really worked hard on it, it would probably work like the PocketC debugger/compiler for the PalmOS.

^^^ click link ^^^

That would be great! The only problem might be that the BAS->ASM code would be really ineffecient. I did see a program in the win section to convert basic to asm, but I couldn't get it to work. Oh well.

Ya, I tried that program too 'cause I was lazy and didn't want to learn ASM. Then when it didn't work, I decided to learn ASM anyway. And, it actually has been a lot of fun. I don't know why some people think it is the product of a sick, twisted mind. I know I don't have a sick mind lol. Oh well, ASM is fun!

Gerhalt

ASM is fun :) But, even so, it is very arrgravating. (too lazy to check spelling). I spent about three hours (yes, three hours) on this ASM program where you're a ship flying through space and you dodge asteroids that fly in your path. It keeps score, has different difficulty levels... anyway, the program was error-free until the very end. It would run through perfectly and then it would skip to the OS in a sort-of unstable way and when you hit the Y= key, it would display all these random pixels (probably bytes from the memory) and then it would flash and all these characters and shapes would fly around the screen. I'm serious, I have a screenshot of it. BTW, all testing was on VTI. It's a possibility that VTI is a poop and it really does work, but I doubt it :) It looked very similar to the legendary "waterfall effect" I've heard about. LOL! Either way, I'm saving this version just because the error is funny :) My original thought was that I forgot to POP back something that I PUSHed, but I checked and it looks like that's not the case. ASM doesn't like me ;)

You did Space Dementia? That game is amazing!

No... is Space Dementia similar to mine? I still have mine (that crashes when it's done) :) Is Space Dementia for the TI-82 or 83[+]? Mine's probably not as good since I'm pretty awful at z80 ;-)

Where could I see Space Dementia? I'm curious now... :)

Get it from the Ti-89 or Ti-92+ ASM Games archive.

Yeah, I just checked :) It looks pretty cool, but it's WAY more advanced than the z80 one that I wrote. It's not even similar. Mine's a 2d "move left and right" game to dodge these "asteroid" blocks that fly up at you. Then after you win, the calc does weird things.

I know where you are comming from but...CALM DOWN ABOUT YOUR GAME...no offense BTW, but it is starting to get a little annoying. If you want you can also upload it to calcgames.org by clicking the link above.

Oh come on, I've seen everybody do that before ;-) (You did it about the calcgames shop... lol)
Besides, I finally wrote something that doesn't stink horribly, so I'm happy ;-)
I thought only members of calcgames.org could upload programs to calcgames... are the archives open like ticalc's?

Another option would be to have a hot-swapable Compact Flash port on the calc. Even though it provides way more memory to the calc with your own custom 'archives', I think there might be a problem with interfaceing the FAT format and the 68k format.

i think 68k calcs do something like that. they start of by debugging the prog then they might compile it?, but basic runs d*mn fast

BASIC on the 68k calcs is actually pretty slow ;-) When they "debug" it, they're just checking for syntax errors, and they simplify stuff so it can read it faster...
ex.
8x
turns to
8*x

What do they call the Voyage 200?

That would almost be a shame cuz it would mean that I purchased a Sony Clie (33Mhz, 16MB of SRAM) for nothing. :/