Survey posted 2003-02-03 22:24 by Magnus.

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The answer is most definatly "Most Time" They have to be able to update the archives more than once a month as it is now.

Yeah, look... four people voted for it already. Nobody voted for anything else, which is really a good thing, in my opinion.

Yes, I agree.

reading the options, i gave "many calculator" a thought, but i definitely decided for time when i read it... the "pending files" queue dosnt seem to go down nowadays

Yes, I'd much rather have them put a lot of time into it, instead of just having a lot of calculators.

I always thought you had to test files that are uploaded in order to keep unwanted content out of the archives, as ticalc.org got in trobule with ti before.
so you do need a varitey of calculators.

No, we don't test all files. At the first layer we have automated systems that filter some parts out. Some programs are tested just to be sure, other times the archives just shuffles through the source (assuming Basic, usually) to get a good idea.

We test some, certainly, but not all. In many cases you can determine wether something is appropriate or not without actually running the program. Not with 100% correctness, but that's what the Report Inappropriate form is for.

True, which takes a lot of pressure off the archivers. :) I think that if the program were BASIC, then, you could just skim through the source, and if you find a naughty word, then... do something ;) and if it doesn't, then it's probably fine. And if you're not 100% sure, then run it. :)

That would be great but TI (or us) would have to implement all the technoledgies and stuff into BASIC that is out there and make it a heck of a lot faster.

Huh? You'd just need to skim through the file and look if it uses pictures or if it has any bad words.

Um.... what are you talking about?

if all programs were in basic (which was what was mentioned), then many of the games would be nowhere near as good, because it's slow. that's where the comment about speeding up basic and such

Oh... it just didn't seem English to me.

Yea, it left me pondering...

um.. what he said was to make basic as fast as assembly...

Which really isn't possible.

not without making it asm, no;)

hehe, that might change soon :-P

I doubt it ;-0

what does the other things have to do with it

Known Name- some one like no_one who has a crapload of time
But that goes back to lots of time.

Good Programmer, if they one someone they could respect I guess...
But I voted for lots of time.

well, they hired a good programmer for the news editor, so...

Known name - Someone who's popular, I'd assume a big, popular game-making person.
Cool name - Um... well, I don't see why that would make me prefer one guy over the other, but maybe my preferences are different... I don't know.
Many calculator - this way, they can test more games better
Lots of time - (BEST OPTION) - so they can put lots of time into the archives by uploading a LOT of files, instead of just uploading one a day
Good programmer - this seems to me like it aligns with the first option, somewhat. Or, they could test the source code... I don't know lol

Cool name - I can't fathom why anybody would feel inclined to make a preference of one archiver or the other, on determination of their username.

i voted for cool name, why not?

and why would you need many calculators? I doubt that they would actually test them on the calculator. That is what the emulator is for. Maby it shoud read "many rom's"

Well, for you to have the ROM legally, you need to own the respective calculator, so I guess that "Many calculator[s]" is more appropriate than "Many ROMs" since you need the former to have the latter.

You can get rom's of of your friends calculator to use for testing, as long as you don't distribute them

It's your friend's ROM, he (or she :) is just letting you borrow it :p

Yeah... I know the guy who I downloaded this ROM from... he has this site, that's where I got it. I had the calculator, honest... I guess I lost it. Oh well. ;)

technically speaking that is still illegal, only legal is owning the ROM dumped from your calc.

I was too lazy to do so for my 83+ and 89, but it is still the law.

I know ;) I was making a silly joke... but yeah, I did the same thing too. But for me, the ROM dump didn't work for the TI-82 (don't really know why). The TI-89 _did_ dump the ROM, but I wanted different AMS versions, so I got more. :)

you can download roms for the flash calcs from ti

I've read how to, but I lost that. What to you do to get them?

Click on the link to download them, hit that you agree, then download them :p

what link?

Oh come on, you know what he's talking about! :p

The one on the epsstore.ti.com or whatever it is. The one that has the apps name on it, obviously :p

Okay, I did that. It worked :)

But how do you download programs from TI without being a member of their site? I filled out the application form, but when I clicked "Next" (or whatever accept button it was), the page just reloaded. Is their a way to bypass being a member? Or did I do something wrong when I tried to sign up? The programs were free and all, so I just do not see how you need to be a member of their site to get their apps (that's why I am a member of ticalc.org. Free progs!).

That's why. That's a benefit to becomming a member of their site. Also, make sure you enter EVERYTHING you can, if it's personal info just make it up :p Also, try signing in afterwards, if it doesn't work contact TI. Also, on my old computer (from like 1994) the site wouldn't function properly for some reason, but on my new old computer (newer than my old one, but still old :-p).

Good luck :)

Oohh... it could have been the browser version. The really old ones can't do anything. Most of them can't handle cookies, javascript, php, and other stuff I think. It's really weird. IE 2.0 allows Java but not Javascript. I guess Javascript came afterwards.

PHP is run by the server, it's not affected by browser versions.

But can the older browsers get the server to run it?

...Which would imply that you're illegally obtaining ROMs. Bad.

what if my computer can't get the rom from the 83+? what do I do now?

Absolutely nothing.

Why does it not receive your ROM? Be more specific as to what happens when you try to dump your ROM image.

Here is a possible list of errors that may have occured:

>you did not successfully recieve and run prgmDUMPROM while the calculator was plugged into your computer
>you did not successfully install Virtulal TI.
>your calc's ROM has been patched or modified
>your memory is damaged and/or blocked
>your GraphLink is not compatable and/or is damaged
>your GraphLink is not correctly plugged into your computer
>your linking software is faulty
>anything else that other people can think of

>you have an incorrect OS version
>you have an SE (same reason as above, an incorrect OS version)
>you quit before it's done
>you are using a soda can instead of your calculator by accident

soda can? *gasp* you mean, soda cans don't have roms? but really, one friend asked about how to use a TI-30XII rom after I told him about my 89

LOL. Have you accidently tried to plug you link into your soda can?

Unless someone was REALLY high, I doubt that would ever happen. Ever tried to stick a small pointy object in your linkport and screw it up? YAY!

LUSB!

A pencil might work ;-) Has anyone ever noticed that if you press on the screen of the calculator, weird colors appear? A lot of laptops are like that too. Can that damage ever stay there if pressed hard enough?

well, besides cracking the screen or breaking something else behind it, i've never noticed any permanent damage. i must say, these calcs are tough. i've dropped my 89 so many times, and it's really not even scratched.

Me too! Though, I tend to drop my 82 more than my 89. I haven't noticed any damage. My memory hasn't even cleared from dropping it.

I think it should be a lot of time so he/she can update the archives maby more than once a month, but also has a lot of calculators so he/she can test the games and get good screenshots.

it's not archivers job to test every game and get screenshot for every single one. Else the games would be backed up to like, 3000 lol. Besides, most programs uploaded are basic, who needs a screenshot of that? Also, you don't need lots of time to update, just a couple hours out of your day each day, 15 hours a week perhaps, should suffice.. I don't like any of the options, but the one I disliked the least was "lots of time".. why wasn't there a "will do a reliable job" option? ;-)

That's implied ;)

Hey, you never know but the way it is looking now your 3000 files might come true without the screenshots, etc. All I basicly care about is they get a decent person who works quickly and start him up soon if not immediatly.

Ya, sorry. Parts of it are semi interesting. (I think)

Part of the problem is how a single line gets wrapped so often. You only get a word or two to some of the lines.