Survey posted 1999-11-15 01:07 by Andy.

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I do remember opening up my TI-85 once and displacing the keys so they were all scrambled. Heh.

Actually, this could be practical on the 92. The SAT doesn't allow calcs with QWERTY keyboards but they don't say you can't use one with a Dvorak.

I'm the only who has broken calculator opening it? Well, it wasn't even mine. I found a TI-82 last year and decided to open it. I never put it back together, but it probably wouldn't work, I really busted that thing open baby!!!

AHH RED WORDS ARE BLINDING ME.... AHHHHHHH

ohh ive opened my calc lots fo times.... lotsa fun to poke round in it.. lost 2 of the keys first time i opened it and almost had an heart atack finding them

I tried to open up my TI-83 once. Then I realized a) I'm very accident prone and end
up destroying the calc. b) It was my only calcuator c) I paid (half) for the bloody thing.
So before I went and did something I would probably really regret, I stopped. :)

I see wat you mean by red words!

You lost 2 buttons? that must hurt.

(Sorta reminds me of the time i reinstalled Windows 98 and I spent almost 4 hours looking for the CD KEY. After I reformatted the C: partition!)

Interesting survey question. I've opened my calculator thousands of times to play games, but I've never actually like taken it apart and stuff. :)

--
Bryan Rabeler
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." - Lord Acton

I opened one of the school's ti82s and tried to install a backlight, but the keys fell out and flew all over the place so I secretly swapped it with a friend's. He was pissed, but didn't know who did it.
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Gockies
"Greed is what leads to the need for weed." -Found on my desk in World Geography.

I also opened up my ti83 but got scared so I closed and sealed i with super glue.

ya know what they mean Bryan, not taking out the case.

But my calcs always opened. High school's a bad place to leave things...

Yes, I know. Notice the :) at the end of my commenet.

-- Bryan Rabeler
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." - Lord Acton

example: Lord Acton :)

I opened up my ti-85 once I got my 89. I just looked around on the inside one day when I was bored in gym. I don't see how anyone could really break it, aside from smashing with a screwdriver or something :). I mean if the keys fall out you can just put them back in.

who has screwdrivers at school to open their calcs?
I hve opened my 86 and looked around, and i will put in everything that i can on it when i get a job with some money.

Well... I'm in the band and we need to carry around sets of mini-screwdrivers to keep all the screws in if they get loose...

I not only opened my calc but I also over clocked it. I love it. I added a switch to switch between modes, fast and normal. It is so awesome.I am the envy of my class who have to wait forever on their basic programs.

Um, I know that when i first read the new red stuff, it said you can turn it off once youve read through it in your prefs--I cant find out how or find that text in the red no MORE?!!?
help?

Isn't it sad that there are so many guidelines, that ticalc.org has to create an option that allows users to hide them?

No, I think it's sad we have to /say/ so many of these points. But these have been the guidelines all along. People were upset because we were 'too vague,' so now these guidelines specifically state what qualifications I use to delete a comment. (I also use common sense, of course.)

You were one of the strongest supporters of clearer guidelines, anyhow. So be happy--we've finally put them up for all to see. :)

Don't post general feedback or criticism about the site. Instead, Contact Us through email. An exception is suggestions related to the item at hand, but be sure to email us as well since we can't always read every comment. Encouraging suggestions get much better results than irate demands.

Isn't that one of those guidelines? :)

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Bryan Rabeler
"The first sign of corruption in a society that is still alive is that the end justifies the means." - Georges Bernanos

yes, and as a matter of fact, I plan on effectively isolating those users who are able to squeeze through the iron fist of ticalc.org and post an inappropriate message.

btw, I took apart my 82 when the link port on it broke, and no I could not fix it.

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Harper Maddox
"Freedom is Slavery" -George Orwell

ticalc.org has an iron fist? What would they ever need that for?

-- Bryan Rabeler
"I have also received > 20 mails from people outside our staff asking us to kick you off the site. This is not something we'll do" - Magnus Hagander, 22 November 1998

As of right now, TICalc.org rules with a foam finger.

BTW I took apart my TI-85 to clean the screen of 14 years of dust.

email.... tried that.... each response from chris ended in a flame aimed at me. Doesn't take long to figure out that thats not going to work....

It is sad you have to say all these points. You have way too many guidelines, its like the U.S. tax code. Why don't you guys lighten up and let free speech reign?

These have been exactly the guidelines all along? Then what was the point of the "trials" and the survey? They didn't change a SINGLE THING?

Sure, I was a supporter of clearer guidelines, but also for less guidelines. I was also a supporter of free speech, which is NOT anarchy.

And why did you make the news item read-only? Why don't you want comments/feedback on your decision. Why did you make a decision and not let people respond to it? That is stupid.

Ask your fellow users why they didn't choose anarchy (or, in other words, "free speech") in the recent poll. And you were very vocally in support of having enough guidelines to explain why comments get deleted. We tried to explain it in a list of 3 items, but clearly it wasn't sufficient.

Sometimes people try new things and then keep doing things the old way. The point of a trial is to see if it's worth changing or not. In this case, it's not.

Lastly, we have provided plenty of public forums for discussing this issue. (And this isn't one of them!) We have all heard your opinion, and you presumably cast your vote along with everyone else. If you want to respond to our decision, as the article said, you may email us -- otherwise, there's to be no more public discussion about this. That's not the same as "not let[ting] people respond to it."

Again, this is definitely not a public forum for further discussion on this matter, and this thread ends here, as it is completely unrelated to the survey. Take it up with us in email from now on, or your replies WILL be removed, as all that red text very clearly states.

Chris

For the four billionth time, if you don't like this site, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. It's unbelievable that you spend so much time at a website that you can't stand.

no
he likes the site, i think, mostly, but he can't stand the injustice that reigns. rigged surveys and all, you see, so he has to bitch about everything possible and generally raise points that most of the people i know agree with. It's also good bitching because its nondirectional bitching, a sort of general bitching, if you will. I"d keep going, but its 2:00 AM and tomorrow i have a bunch of relatives coming over for t-day.

PS red doesn't bother me at all, in fact, red is the main color of my desktop theme, from maroon adn brick, to fire engine and just plain fiery. Ha hahah.

Yes i have taken apart my calculator (ti-89) , cuz the buttons kept sticking, and i had to clean them, and i dont like the screen material, it seems to get marked and pitted a lot easier then the 86 one does, i have had the 86 for 3 years, and the plastic screen panel looks brand new, my 89??....NOOO, i can clean it all i want, and in a day its gonna look all pitted and nasty!

on a side note, Brian Rabeler should change his name to Babbeler, cuz thats all he's doing is babbeling on and on about unnecessary things.

one last question, if i cant ask for a game port here, WHERE CAN I???...i have two calcs, and there is a game that i would like ported from one to the other, please tell me where to ask for that.

Your best bet is to email the program's author or porter and ask _nicely_. Also make sure you're making a realistic request -- asking for someone to port from the TI-92 to the TI-82, for instance, is usually unrealistic, since programs need to be entirely rewritten for the different processor families. Oh, and ask nicely. :) Programmers get a ton of such requests and they work for free, so they need encouraging and gratitude, not pestering.

Chris

We'll have that set up ASAP... it's not there yet, though.

Chris

Cool, I want to get all that blinding, bright red text off my screen ASAP. :)

-- Bryan Rabeler
"I personally guarantee that there will be no 'censorship' of what he [Bryan Rabeler] writes (as long as he keepts to the rules about such things as language used)." - Magnus Hagander, 5 March 1999

"Can you still see right after reading all that red text?"
"I can barely see right. Can't wait for that new preference feature."
"I want to get all that blinding, bright red text off my screen ASAP."

I think you've made your position on this rather clear, and that posting something three times is more than enough. As I said, we will set this up ASAP. I think maybe we'll wait a little longer, though, since you like it so much.

Chris

Well...I think someone here is a little irate about what is going on. It's very clear to me that the people who own and run this web site are being put on the defensive stand for no reason. As I'm sure it has been stated many times, you choose to come here and access every thing this site has to offer. It is your decision to come here and just as easily so can be your decision to leave. If you have a problem with the comment boards, the voting, the rules, or the leadership, then you can leave. Nobody forces you to come here. In fact, I'm sick and tired of people complaining that the people who run this site "owe" it to the ti-owners to provide a service that obliges with whatever they demand. Get over it. Like I said before, if you don't like it, leave.

On another note,
I don't really see a need for opening up a calculator. Maybe overclocking is good for some people, but I don't see it benefiting myself. A backlight would be nice though...

Jake

"If you don't like it, just leave."

I find that kind of position very disturbing and sick. If everyone had that attitude, nothing would ever get fixed. There would be a lot of "leaving" going on and nothing being done about any problems. The only way you fix things is when you don't leave and you stay and you fix it.

-- Bryan Rabeler
"Let me remind people that we're not in the business of censorship." - Chris, 4 November 1998

Ok...there is absolutly no reason why you should feel this way. As I remember, you no longer have anything to do with this site. You are just like any other Joe Shmoe who visits and that includes myself. You need to respect the services that these people provide you.

For example:
Yahoo, just like the people here at ticalc, provide a service. Now, if yahoo just one day decides to cancel their e-mail service, what are you going to do about it? You can complain and scream and howl, but basically there is nothing you can do about it. So what do you do? You put on a frown and start whining maybe. Then you go to excite. It's not as good as yahoo, but they do offer free e-mail.

This is what I'm talking about.

There is absolutly nothing you can do about what ticalc does to their messageboards so it would save you time and energy to quit complaining about it. Not only is it a pathetic attempt to get back at the people who shunned you, it shows a real lack of character. As I'm sure you will be quick to disagree with me, I just want you to know that this is the feeling I get from your posts, as it may in fact be completely wrong. All I can say is that if you don't like it, leave. If you still want to make a difference, start your own web site where you control what happens. You may not like it, but unfortunatly that's all you can do really.

Jake

The big flaw in your argument is that Yahoo is a commercial, for-profit company. ticalc.org isn't.

So what? Yahoo is out to make money, but my argument still stands. The point of the matter is practically proven by your response. Thank you for clarifying this matter.


Jake

ok, 2 things.....

1. You are not a site like yahoo, you don't have anything close to the resources that Yahoo has. Yahoo can get shit done when they have to, they have the money and the power.

2. Please stop comparing ticalc to larger for-profit sites. They are nothing of the same!

What difference does that make? The point is that this isn't your website; it's not your responsibility or right to change. That fact that it's not commercial STRENGTHENS the point Jake was making, since boycotting ticalc.org would be useless.

Well, yeah <-I-> don't own this site.... but how about all the programers that made this site possible? You think this site would be any good if programers didn't allow their programs to be posted on ticalc?

Users boycotting this page would be easy and useless, but how about programers?

and have you noticed how Yahoo justifies the umpteen billion in market share it hauls in every year?

by stealing other people's ideas and claiming them as their own

Nothing needs fixed. Just go away.

--Isaac Cambron
"You suck." --me

hrm.... what an El33t comment....

Sure, wait as long as you want. I bet this is going to almost double your GB/month transfer rate.

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Bryan Rabeler
"All opinions are equal, but some opinions are more equal than others."

Somehow, I really doubt it.

I'd work on that "slashdot-like" system..... this one isn't working.....