This new OS is now released on TI's Web Site so you are not downloading a big bulky software just to get it. You can access the download by clicking on my link.

Also it basically looks like 2.08 but TI probably made new features in the new TI Connect that allows us as TI users to do more things with the calculator like finally be able to Edit Basic programs on the PC without having to download Graphlink (like what they did for the iMac). They also need to release features in TI Connect which can allow us to connect to the older calculators (so I can put programs on my friends calculators) on the PC than downloading the iMac version and emulating it on my PC since the iMac version supports all calcs.
But 2.09. Probably there is modifications in the graphing code or it is more stable than 2.08. (I actually had 2 crashes by running someones calander program and then switching to the graphing by pressing 2nd Apps.)

SO DOWNLOAD IT AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK. - -
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I had been happy when you spoke that TI Connect 1.3 accompanied with a text editor, but only that I didn't find anything.
I think I will retake the development of a text and program editor for Win that I had begun, because to work with the editor of the TI-Graph Link is not friendly.

Correction. This OS has been tested and hardly any programs work as far as I can tell except for TI's Applications. So it is either waiting until somebody starts making programs support the higher OS or you might as well stick to 2.05 or 2.08 for all that matters.

so, me being the 4 month Voyage user that I am, with near to zero experience in this stuff, won't download it until you all say it's ok to download it. ;)

Don't get it. I was hard enough to find stuff that worked on the V200 anyway. But if you wait about 2 months everything should be compatible

How do i edit basic programs? i cant find it. If you have to use the graphlink softare than im screwed

TI Graph Link 92 can be used to edit V200 basic programs, if you rename them from NAME.V2P to NAME.9XP.

Or you can send them to your calculator to edit with Program Editor.

Ok...here it was TI's site says about 2.09...

This free upgrade replaces your existing operating system. Version 2.09 adds support for the TI-Navigator™ system and includes the recently released 2.08 features below:

+ An easy to navigate icon desktop
+ Create you own app categories
+ Now compatible with the TI Keyboard
+ New Trigonometric and Hyperbolic functions
+ Clock and date functionality

I am going to re-download and possibly actually figure out what they changed and I will post up any games that may support the new OS. A friend of mine says the OS actually does work so I am doing this to benifit all of you guys out there.
This may take a while... :)
(I am also now thinking about the opportunities of the new OS)

Also I am working on web apps and I will post them up this summer on my link. I do have some cool scripts up though.

So far I tried ....
+ Collection of Classic Text Adventures v1.7 by Zejko Juric
+ Alien Invasion v1.5
.
. Skipped some
.
Asteroid Field
BallRace 3D v0.1
Baseball 89
and Gran Tourismo and they all WORK!!!

The only program that won't work of course would be Wallpaper Maker which really iratated me because I thought that a program like that would be cool BUT it does not work right in the latest OS even 2.08 and it probably wont even work in 2.05 since it works for 2.03 (i finally read the read me)
So yes I guess everything actually DOES work but if it doesn't or if you find a game that I listed not work, then you either have DOORS OS or something installed that modifies the ROM and sometimes creates some nasty errors (which you can't install in 2.09 anyway from what I know) or you have an HW1 calculator with 2.09.

** I have a HW2 calculator so I do not know much about what you will experience with an HW1 calculator with programs from HW2 calculators.

Aren't they all nostub?....

All nostub programs should work on this new version, so was the case when 2.08 came out, as well.

Also if you want to talk more about the TI calculators somewhere where I now monitor the board instead of TICALC, click on my link where you can talk about 2.09 and more.

Us Mac users may be able to edit progs in TI-Connect, but I have to send newly downloaded progs to my Windows box, send it to my calc over TI-Connect, and then get it off my calc onto my Mac. I've emailed TI about five times about this, and I've only gotten nonanswers. (TI's *REALLY* good at nonanswers.)

What TIOS is the latest than runs most games? Is it the 2.05?

2.05 but abour 90% of those games run on 2.08. It just depends on whether or not they are updated.

I use AMS 2.05. Aside from some SF2 not running (probably because of my version of DoorsOS), all the programs seem to run just fine.

Get Pre-OS. It can be found at http://www.timetoteam.fr.st/.

-W-

Its not the shell that's the problem, its the hw2 patch file that isn't compatable b/c nobody has upgraded it to be compatable with 2.08& 2.09!

Use h220xtsr, it works just as well and I've had no problems with it.

Can h220xtsr work with UniversalOS?

-MrM

I think so!, most likely.

No, but it does work with PreOs!

'I' Have.

...had problems w/ it!

Why does no one make a kernel that can run on hardware two calcs? Is there some erason that every kerenl has to patch the hardware version?

-W-

You're talking in octogons!, HW2Patch and hxxstr-whatever
'are' programmed for Hardware 2 calcs., hence '"HW2"Patch'!
The problem is that they haven't made any patches compatable with
the new AMS versions(2.08& 2.09), yet!

Capeish(how do you spell that anyway?...)!??

You did not answer my question. I want to know why all the current kernels have to have the hw2 patch or h220xtsr. I want to know why nobody writes one for the HW2 calcs, seeing as they are now the most common.

-W-

I believe that the ROM needs to be patched 'permanently' with hw2patch or temporaily with h220xtsr because there are some hardware 'blocks' that prevent certain actions. Also it is easier to have a universal program that preforms a specific task instead of having multiple programmers with multiple solutions to the same problem. Have someone eslse explain if you don't understand.

<< Also it is easier to have a universal program that preforms a specific task instead of having multiple programmers with multiple solutions to the same problem. >>

And it is even easier to have an universal solution, but to allow the programs needing the solution to integrate this solution right into their programs. That's why the "developer version" of h220xTSR exists. It is used by PreOs for example, which is why running preos() on a HW2 AMS 2 calculator "just works" without you having to install anything else before.

>The problem is that they haven't made any patches compatable with the new AMS versions(2.08& 2.09), yet!

h220xTSR 1.11 (and 1.10, but it had an unrelated bug which I fixed in version 1.11) DOES work on AMS 2.08 and 2.09!

What about your autoaoff (Auto Alpha Off) program? That doesn't work with 2.09, unless I'm missing something. (It's been the only thing I've had problems with on 2.09 too.)

Get version 1.12 from my web page (use the "web page" link above).

Thanks.

>Why does no one make a kernel that can run on hardware two calcs?

PreOs DOES run on HW2 calculators. You do NOT need to install any "patch" before, as PreOs will AUTOMATICALLY install the HW2 AMS 2 TSR support for you. (It is included in the installation executable.)


>Is there some erason that every kerenl has to patch the hardware version?

HW2 calculators have protections against execution from all areas of RAM where execution is not explicitly allowed by AMS in order to (attempt to) enforce TI's program size limit. This is trivial to bypass in a non-memory-resident program, but for a memory-resident (TSR) program such as a kernel, it requires to either install an extra TSR with a few trap hooks (such as h220xTSR or the RAM-resident HW2Patch install) or to patch AMS (as the HW2Patch does when you choose the FlashROM-resident install).