Does anyone know of any good C tutorials for the 83+?

That depends a lot on what compiler you use, as C compilers for TI calcs are not very standardized.

Any good C tutorial can get you started with C (if you don't know it already). You can then program in C for the 83+ by reading any documentation that comes with the compiler and any other specifics you need to know.

I can probably help you out with anything that's specific to the calcs, as I have done asm and Small C for the TI-86 and know about various peculiarities of using both in the same program.

Okay, know of any good compilers?

I've found several compilers, only one of which I've used a lot. It's Small C (ti8xccd.zip in DOS/asm). I don't know if it'll work well for the TI-83+. I only know that it produces HUGE code for Z80 (about 3 times the size of the same program written by a decent asm programmer). For one thing, it promotes all data types to 16-bit ints, even when it doesn't need to.

I actually learned a lot by studying assembly programs made by the compiler, and now I am much more comfortable with asm than I ever was before. I suggest you do the same if you have the will and determination.

Instead of using a compiler, you can "compile" the program yourself into assembly. It's not very difficult, except for complicated expressions. In fact, there's a nearly direct relationship between C and asm. I did this for my set of multithreading functions (threads.zip in TI-86/asm/source). I included the C source file and commented the asm source with the corresponding C expressions for easy comparison (the line of C usually matches up when the assembly has already performed the action).

I could probably write a whole tutorial on what I know, and that's what I might do sometime (read: maybe never :-). In the meantime, I can still help you with some specifics, though you should look for the answers on your own first.

Thanks a lot. I'll check it out.

Did anyone take the AIME today?

Is that the American Invitational Mathematics Examination? No, I haven't.

Yeah, I guess I should've mentioned that.

Yeah, I took it. It was sooooo hard! I couldn't believe that even though I'm in Alg II/Trig Honors, I still beat all of the Calc BC kids on the AMC 12.

Hey guys, 'sup? I looked at some of these comments and it seems that this is a great game, but I don't have an 86 to try it on. :( Anyway, I plan on saving and buying a calc this summer (I already have an 89) but I'm going to highschool next year, they put 9th grade with 7th and 8th, and I wanna be a game vender kinda thing or something. Enough talking and down to the point. I need an opinion from "experts" such as yourselves if I should get an 86 or an 83+. Leave comments here please, I almost never check my e-mail.

Get the 86. Whatever you do, stay away from the 83+. Those things are evil. Not as many good games, less features than 86. True, the 86 is a little more expensive than the 83+, but it's worth it. An 86 will last you through college at least; an 83+ will only take you through possibly precalculus.

Wait a second ... don't you already own an 83+? Or is your profile lying?

No I don't already own an 83+. Somehow that option got selected... Maybe my sister, who does own an 83+, played with my account... Hmm... Something to do. Once again I don't own an 83+.

Get an 86 for two reasons: you already have an 83+ (according to your profile, as 343guiltyspark pointed out), and I just think the 86 is better. In my opinion, it has better-looking menus.

The 86's menus are better looking, I agree, but the 83+'s menus are more functional. The 86 uses the barely legible graph text, so, while the menus look very pretty, the folks at TI were forced to use indecipherable abbreviations for some of the functions. I used a friend's 86 for about five minutes once. In that time, I found 10 items where I couldn't figure out what the heck they were.

Wow, I'm amazed. I bought Visual Studio .NET today for $100 (good old academic discounts). Anyway, it's technically the full PROFESSIONAL version, but the catch is that I only have a legal license to make programs for academic purposes (I can't sell them or use them for profit). Not that I ever *would*, really.

OK, major complaint time:
1. VB6:
Load frmMain
Unload frMMain
allowed you to load and unload forms. I have NO IDEA how to do this in VB .NET. It's all funky.
2. TOTAL JAVA RIPOFF. Every single language has become JAVA, even VB. All the forms are defined as classes now. GRR.

Sorry about the long posts, but this really irks me and I have nowhere else to spout my anti-M$ anger. They totally COPY-AND-PASTED Java...

This isn't Slashdot. Go away you anti-MS troll.

Java was not a new idea. By your logic, Sun just copy and pasted C++. Which copy and pasted C. Which copy and pasted B. Which...

VB has previously been a sucky language. And now they're trying to rectify that. You get the best of both worlds: an easy to use language, with a powerful object oriented framework and set of classes. But obviously, you'd rather complain than see things objectively.

Perhaps you'd like to program in an open, free language, such as PHP or Python?

I do program in Perl, PHP, and Python, but I get really annoyed when people decide to copy someone else's programming language! VB .NET is still a far cry from Java (though the similarities are undeniable), and VB was based on BASIC... which is based on the ORIGINAL Ruby... which was written by good old Bill Gates <? $sarcasm=true; $lies=file('bill_gates.txt'); foreach($lies as $y) echo $y; ?>

or Perl?

Or just quit whining all together?

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