Did anybody ever wonder about the sanity of some of these programmers...A winamp calc program?...A windows file modifier called virtual harddrive, that lets u do stuff to ur comp, on a calc?....What the hell were u thinking......Die now ;=) "You are the dead" WereWolf.com

I think that the people that wrote those programs wrote them as a test of their programming skills.

I disagree. I do not think they were proving anything. Some people have a keen interest in these types of things...so they do it. Often times these projects serve as a learnig curve for bigger and better things. I admire your attempts to start wars depleateduranium....i just can't believe people take you so seriously.

>>>I do not think they were proving anything.<<<

I don't think so either; that's not what I said.

>>>Often times these projects serve as a learnig curve for bigger and better things.<<<

Yes. I agree. Test of their programming skills.

no...not a test. A test means that they would be doing it to see how good/bad they are. A test is an evaluation of ones prowess if you will. I do not think people do it to "test" their abilities, I speak from experience her but i suppose can only speak for myself, but it isn't really important anyhow. I'm glad people do these things no matter what their reasoning.

Let's not argue about the way I worded it.

I agree with what you said before.

hahaha...thats funny depleated. Hey, guess what!? Some stupid developer will "test" his programming skills, and make it possible to have the internet on the calculator when its hooked up to the computer. hahahah, a winamp program...hahahha
oh, btw, whoever said that depleated has no life? Well, explain that logic...the programmer is sitting there, reading these books all day, finding out how to program to be compatible with winamp. Now tell me, who has a life? What next, a program that'll tell you the time on your calculator when you hook it up? haha, too lame...
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If you'll read the rest of the posts here, I think Cullen did a pretty good job summing up why people write stuff like the Winamp link/plugin thing.

So, in case you can't find it, here it is:

"Some people have a keen interest in these types of things...so they do it. Often times these projects serve as a learnig curve for bigger and better things."

Although I've not bothered to research it, I believe that the documentation for controlling WinAmp remotely is fairly small. It certainly is not a book, and it is not scattered across several books. Furthermore, it seemed to be a very simple task.

Someone sells an LCD panel and remote display (for a 5¼ inch drive bay?) or a kit or something where you can control WinAmp. So obviously *someone* thought it was a good idea.

All you'd have to do would be to send the appropriate bytes across the link port. That simple. Now, if one uses WinAmp a lot, this is not a waste of time.

If you don't use WinAmp a lot, writing a program like this would be a waste of your time. My advice to you would be not to write a program like this.

I bet they said the same thing about the very first calculators. "What's the point of this, I can already add, subtract, mulitply and divide very well on my own" It's not necessarily whether or not the program itself has any practical value, but what it may eventually stem into. If some guy quite a few decades ago hadn't decided to try and automate a way to add and subtract using puchcards to do calculations on the computers the size of a room, there wouldn't be any computers, TI calculators, or even your stupid Palmpilots. If you don't like TI calculators/programs, why don't you go to the palmpilot website, look at some of those *quality programs*, and talk smack about TI's there so the people intersted in actually learning about how to use new technology don't have to waste their time reading posts by uninformative idiots such as yourself.

ooh, a little offensive there buddy. A remote for winamp? Seriously, that is way too stupid. And i'm sure it would take a while too to do anything on your calculator, and then have winamp do it. Also, lets compute the actual time it would take to run this "winamp program" on your calculator, then actually do a stupid function on there. Click the button. Transfer it to the computer. Oh, did I mention you have to have the calculator hooked up to work? Anyone who disagrees and thinks I'm stupid, die. Now lets try it on winamp. Alt-Tab. winamp. done.
"TI-83s should all be burnt" --Depleateduranium
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actually it really isn't that slow. I have written routines to let a TI86 send at roughly 2K per second. Faster than you would be able to notice anyway. I can't imagine the Winamp things having to send that much information to the computer...in fact I bet Carlos Becker did his best to only transmit the necessary data. Each transmition is probably less than 30 milliseconds, but i could be wrong.

I know this is way off topic, but I asked this question before in the approriate place but no one has used that board but me in a while.

Why does it seem that ClrHome on the 83+ (regular) take so much longer in 1.14? Anyone else notice this?
I have a prog that starts with
ClrHome
Disp "A bunch of crap...
and it take at least 4 times longer to see the Disp stuff

Try the assembly-83 mailing list.

Because this has nothing to do with programming in assembly

What makes you think that it isn't the DISP function instead of the ClrHome???

clrhome isn't the problem. if you run programs where you use a gotos to jump out of a loop(or many nested loops), this bogs down version 1.14. v1.14 also has a defragmenting feature that cuts down on the number of garbage collects that you have to do. to fix this, achive/unarchive a bunch of stuff until you see "defragmenting..." at the top of your calc.
then it will run faster. its kind of a dumb feature if you ask me, but on the SE it probilly makes alot of sense.

Ah, you are right. My program does have lots of Gotos, but not to jump out of loops. I do not have many BASIC progs on my calc and I didn't notice that it only does it on the programs with lots of Gotos.

How is this different from 1.13 or 1.12? And are you sure you mean defrag? When you un/archive things a lot, it asks you to Garbage collect, which does nothing for this problem. It does usually defrag after deleting an app, though. I will try that if that is what you meant.

garbage collect is defragging and you dont have to un/archive a program lots to do it....just go to the catalog ^_^

Yes I know about the catalog, that's how i garbage collected. But there is a different defrag, it only happens when you delete (or sometimes install) Apps. Try it.

I've noticed that my silver graphs alot slower then my normal 83+, almost as slow as on my 89, but execution of basic and asm programs are way faster...