So, when do we see the TI-83++ folder? Or will there be a need for one?

My guess is that the TI-83+ SE to the TI-83+ will be like the Game Boy Color to the Game Boy Pocket.
What I mean by this is that the SE will most likely be compatible with almost all games (except link ones, see above) but there will also be some games that will only work on the SE.

Hope this helps.

From what I've heard nearly every application will be compatible.

Exceptions:
-TI-83+ Programs that use their own link protocol. The 83+SE needs to use TI's protocol

-TI-83+ SE Programs that require the faster processor. Might still run (if the appropriate ROM call is located on both versions).

Well, I'm a programmer who uses BASIC. I'm not into games or game boy stuff, that's what the Playstation is for.

Are programs going to be compatible between 83+ and 83 SE? Will I able to transfer programs back and forth?

Excuse me, what grade are you in? I was using an analogy (sound it out if you have to) you should start studying analogies (the plural form) since they are very important on the SAT's.
:)

Hmmmm, I should have known better not to post questions on this board...

Maybe you should answer the grade question first, for I'm years beyond the SAT (that's graduated from college, but maybe that's too high brow for you.)
;)

I was not referring to your question, actually I was referring to the statement you made right before it.

Sorry, I was just foolin' with you.

I find myself in the minority because I like the calculators as math tools, and not video game machines. Maybe the Puzzle Pack will change my mind...

Also about the price difference, it comes with a link which is worth $15 or more, not that anyone here would need one. Just thought i'd point that out.

Colin Smith

Comes with a graphlink? That is a waste. Don't they realize that almost anyone who would buy one has a link already? What if a calculator gets lost or stolen and needs to be replaced?

I don't think so. The calculator is aimed at people whithout a TI calc. People with a TI calc and a graph link would probably buy a TI89 instead.

I believe it's a pretty good idea since most people wouldn't bother buying an extra graph link (I remember I had to wait 2 months to get mine after I ordered it). This can only boost this community - and add a lot of useless basic programs too I guess :-p

I don't totaly agree. If you already have an 83, or 83+ and wanted a new calc with a faster processor, more memory, and preloaded app, but didn't want to re-learn how to use your calc (it takes a while to learn a 89 from an 83+), and download all new software (games, etc...), or if you just want to be the first in your school to have the 83 triage, then the silver edition would seem to be a great choice.

But if you don't fall in any of these categories, why waste your money on an inferior calculator? Just buy an 89.

However, I totally agree about the useless programs part. Just about any one can write a BASIC program, but PLEASE!!! do not release the one that you learned how to program with and does absolutely nothing. This just wastes space in ticalcs archives, and nobody really needs them. Leave these kind of programs to the C and ASM programmers, since you can't just look in the ti manual to learn how to do that.

cout>>"sorry for the long post">>endl;

I went from a TI-85 to a TI-89 (back in 1999), and I did not have hard time in the transition. About 80% of the commands are basically the same, just the format is a little different.

As far as the basic programs go: this web site has a million of simultaneous solvers and quadratic equation programs. Hopefully, these programmers, myself included, are trying to expand our knowledge beyond that. Programming should be encouraged.

For the record, I'm reading all comments to see if it's worth adding the 83+SE (which costs about the same as the 86 + TI-Graph Link) to the collection (81,83+,85,86,89,92+).

Acttually, I went from a TI-83+ to a TI-89 last christmas, and in a month or too, I not only mastered the calc, I was programming in BASIC on it. If you take time to look at the manual, you can learn any calc in no time.

I totally agree, even though the 89 was my first Graph Calc, I mastered it easily, as well as started making text adventures.:)

I programmed asm on my 89 the same day I got it.
crashed it within minutes of getting it out of the box, with a exec.
Still havn't bothered to learn even most of the math on it :)
(Maybe mostly because no courses I have attended lately has allowed _any_ calc.)

Donīt laugh, but my first calculator was a 92. I got it because I wanted to type out homework in the text editior, and then print it out at home. Worked pretty well. Then I found out it could do math...

Your IO stream operators are going the wrong way. It sould be:

cout<<"sorry for the long post\n";

Yeah, you're right. It had been a long night of programming and it was about 1 A.M. when I made that post, so I was pretty tired.
What I was really talking about in learning the diffrences are the editors, like the data and matrix editor. I personally think they help to make the 89 be one of the best calc's out there, but the point of all this shouldn't be to talk about the 89. Also, just to clarify my idea of a long time, it took me about a month or so to be able to use the 89 as good as the 83+ (with an occasionall glance at the manual). But I thought the 83+ was an excellent calc with a ton of usefull extras, it even did all of the statistics work for you, then again I was stepping up from an 81. The silver edition has a lot of potential, especially with the speed increase it looks like it graphs as fast if not faster than the 89, but the price could be a problem.

Umm, and to fix my error, man I feel stupid
cout<<"This is better"<<endl;

I got my TI-86, my first TI calc, for Christmas. I wanted to go out and buy a link cable, but there are no stores in a 100-mile radius that carried it! I had to order a graphlink from TI and wait for it to arrive (my homemade link didn't work well at all.) If the calc included a link, then I wouldn't have had to go through all that.

kind of a waste... anyone that would REALLY care about that much space probably already has a TI calc and a graph link...

If I ever get a better calc than my TI-83+, I'll probaby get an 89. Way better than the 83+SE...